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Witless Conroy's Shameful Attack

silverfaun — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:13:03 GMT

This witless little incompetent should be sacked, removed from the Labor party and Shorten should distance the party from this pathetic union hack.

This, on the day Labor was shown up for their shameful defence of Craig Thomson, now we are subjected to this appalling insulting of an honourable serving Officer on national TV and not having the intestinal integrity to apologise for his attack:

THE government has demanded Bill Shorten discipline frontbencher Stephen Conroy for breaking with convention in a “cowardly”, “unprovoked” and “outrageous” attack on a senior serving army officer.

Coalition senator Ian Macdonald shut down a Senate estimates hearing after Senator Conroy, Labor’s defence spokesman, launched an extraordinary attack on the head of the government’s border protection operation, Lieutenant General Angus Campbell, accusing him of being involved in a political cover-up.

Senator Conroy likened General Campbell to the fictitious Colonel Nathan Jessup from the movie A Few Good Men for his approach to restricting the flow of information on the interception of asylum-seeker boats.

“That is called a political cover-up, a political cover-up, you are engaged in a political cover-up,” Senator Conroy yelled from the bench.

The most bitter exchange began after General Campbell said it was necessary to keep details of Operation Sovereign Borders secret to avoid damaging Australia’s relations with its neighbours and to prevent people-smugglers from gaining an advantage.

Senator Conroy retorted: “Can’t we handle the truth?”

General Campbell responded: “It kind of sounds like a movie, senator.”

Senator Conroy: “It is a movie, and we are living it, Colonel Jessup. I mean seriously, you can’t tell us the truth, you can’t tell the Australian public the truth because you might upset an international neighbour. That is called a political cover-up.”

General Campbell remained calm during the incident but said he wanted to put on the public record that he took “extreme offence at that statement”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/hearing-shut-down-over-stephen-conroys-attack-on-campbell/story-fn59niix-1226837720898

Re: Witless Conroy's Shameful Attack

lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:22:28 GMT

Conroy may be 100% correct.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:23:29 GMT

I thought it was a valid attack considering how the public are treated.

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icyfroth — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:29:20 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
I thought it was a valid attack considering how the public are treated.

It's wilful and viscious slander

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freakiness — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:30:23 GMT

Mmm, So Conroy behaved in a similar manner that some LNP members behaved for 3 years and now it's an outrage.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:31:18 GMT

Well he is involved in a political cover up. There is no denying that.

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tall_bearded — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:48:26 GMT

I think that before anyone makes further comment, they might want to take a look at the Defence Force Discipline Act, and that particular that part of the Act which makes it an offence for defence force personal to criticise government policy.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:53:52 GMT

but it isn't an offence for conroy to criticise when he gets stonewalled, its his job.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:57:36 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:
I thought it was a valid attack considering how the public are treated.
It's wilful and viscious slander

not under privelege, and not if conroy is correct . it isn't possible to know unless the veil of secrecy is lifted. only when and if the operational details are available is it possibble for you to be correct. right now you dont know.

Re: Witless Conroy's Shameful Attack

silverfaun — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:59:14 GMT

So this so called political cover up, would that be the same as the Labor cover up of Craig Thomson?

The go slow of FWA under Rudd/Gillard that saw him sit in parliament for years, saw him finally expelled from the Labor party when Gillard could no longer give him her support for a very long long long time?

Would this be the same type of cover up when Labor gave him $350.0000 dollars for his legal defence?

Would this be the same kind of cover up when Shorten told the whistle blower to "move on, remember your career"?

Would this be the same kind of cover up that saw Thomson pre selected when Labor knew he was dirty?

All those on here who are spouting this shameful slur against a decorated Officer are the same one's who, for years, defended Thomson.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:05:07 GMT

thomson is gone , its the secret blokes club in charge now, using ex members does nothing to enhance the weak argument you put.

Re: Witless Conroy's Shameful Attack

lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:09:00 GMT

pre-selected when he was dirty is an assumption. they , knowing the likes of jackson believed him. an error of judgement. both he and jackson are dirty not just one.

slipper was pre-selected what Six times ? kind of knocks that line of attack on the head

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tall_bearded — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:24:03 GMT

It is the Government and not the military who make policy, and it is the Government and not service personal who should respond to questions in connection with it.

Therefore, if the government position is that limiting the amount of information being provided is in the national interest, then that is the position the military must take, irrespective if they agree with it or not, and Conroy know this or should have known this. As such, he has demonstrateda complete unfitness to hold that position.

But then he does come from a long line of Labor politicians, starting with Whitlam, who believe that as long as there is a political advantage to be gained from it, it's okay to vilify, alienate and marginalise service personal.

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silverfaun — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:26:45 GMT

I hope this fool is pursed to the extent that the weak ineffectual Shorten is forced to sack this disgraceful excuse of a parliamentarian, rid us of him, this union hack that is the incompetent idiot who oversaw the most wasteful project in Australia's history.

The defence of this grub on here by the usuals is par for the course, as we saw with their defence of Thomson for years and now they want all that "forgotten, move on", well guess what?? it won't be forgotten and the next federal election will remind people of just how corrupt & incompetent Labor is.

This attack on a distinguished decorated military officer when this fool is the shadow minister for defence????? good luck with that Conroy.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:28:38 GMT

No, it comes down to whether the guy is involved in a political cover up and it is clear he is, it is up to the opposition to take him to task on that.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:29:47 GMT

if the man is forbidden to speak and merely attends to stonewall the committee he shouldn't attend at all. its the government who put him in that position, its morrisons cloak and dagger BS that put this chap in the firing line.. he should stand up to morrison and say 'you go , its you that thinks that you are James Bond'' or something similar.

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lakeland27 — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:32:19 GMT

and it was John Howard TB who verballed the navy over Tampa along with reith and ruddock. you're assertion that its a labor thing doesn't hold up.

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tall_bearded — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:37:41 GMT

You hit it on the head.

He should never have been called at all and the fact that speaks volumes as to Conroy’s intent by requiring he attend.

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tall_bearded — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:42:29 GMT

All politician do it, but Labor developed it into an art form. Ask any Vietnam Vet.

In fact Tampa a good case in point. Howard was able to say anything he liked because he knew that Navy could not publically respond.

Yesterday Conroy did exactly the same.

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pct001wine — Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:51:42 GMT

So some robust statements were made in a Senate Estimates hearing ? Big deal. It has been a feature of Senate Estimates for a long time and hopefully will continue. It's an essential part of the political process and at least gives a bit of transparency to government actions.

Both parties have been guilty of making a strong impression at these hearings. I hope that you don't think Conroy is alone in this, some of the LNP antics at Senate Estimates make this look like playtime.

Just because the bloke is in uniform doesn't give him some special dispensation.