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Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:16:35 GMT

This is starting out as a non political thread, try to keep it that way please.

What are your views on the unrest in The Crimea?

Do you think it may have an impact on Australia?

Do you know what the unrest is about?

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

donnashuggy — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:21:46 GMT

@poddster wrote:
This is starting out as a non political thread, try to keep it that way please.

What are your views on the unrest in The Crimea?

Do you think it may have an impact on Australia?

Do you know what the unrest is about?

It is like starting a thread about knitting and asking people not to talk about knitting

You can't be serious.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:25:58 GMT

I was referring to local politics that seem to permeate 90% of all threads

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

ca04 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:27:21 GMT

They shouldn't eat such a large meal before going to bed.:-)

We and others should button up and wait to see what happens after the referendum.

There appears to be support for being part of Russa again.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

donnashuggy — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:29:28 GMT

So why did you ask how it may affect Australia?

You cannot do that without discussing politics.

@poddster wrote:
I was referring to local politics that seem to permeate 90% of all threads

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:30:32 GMT

What are your predictions of the result of the referendum ca04?

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:35:04 GMT

Donna do you think that any impact of the unrest in the Crimea, if there is any impact will just bo on local politics?

Is that the way you see the course of this thread?

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

lakeland27 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:36:12 GMT

the result is self evident. the russians maintain control and popular support in crimea, the us and others enact some ineffective sanctions to save face on the home front mostly. some hard feelings and back to business as usual.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

donnashuggy — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:37:05 GMT

I can't predict a thing poddy, all I know is that it is extremely serious.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

amber-eyed-girl — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:40:41 GMT

Poddster, one just has to look at the history of the Crimea to see where this will go.

In terms of Australia, the impact will be felt only if international financial markets are destabilised, or the Ukraine pushes for sanctions that mean business against Russia, or shuts off the gas tap.

Personally, it has affected me already, not financially, but emotionally and practically.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

ca04 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:41:07 GMT

By all reported events it looks like the Ruskies could get the ball.

The region is mostly Russians and it was untill the mid 1950s Russan.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

amber-eyed-girl — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:43:44 GMT

That is the case. So if the Crimea reverts to Russia, what happens to the non-Russians?

Do they stay as second class citizens, or do they have to move to the Ukraine proper?

Will it be, worst case scenario, another Yugoslavia? Who knows at this point.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:56:17 GMT

As in any social conflict, all parties can not be equally pleased. The democratic process dictates that the majority rules but emotion has no such constraint.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

ca04 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:34:51 GMT

I may be wrong but by the restraint showing from all parties in the Crimera to date I feel that if the rest of the world but out there may not be any great concern regarding violence.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

poddster — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:21:07 GMT

ca04 can you even imagine the US not butting in ?

That would go against their primary industry.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

silverfaun — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:28:23 GMT

I read that it was mostly the EU interferring in Ukraine that started the unrest then Russia came in with a massive aid package so they would stay with them.

I should have found the article but it went something like "How the EU Brutalised Ukraine".

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

lakeland27 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:35:34 GMT

nobody out of Moscows control was ever going to host the black sea fleet. the eu and others knew this. its a pantomime.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

amber-eyed-girl — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:38:57 GMT

Subsequent to that, the Ukraine has asked the E.U. for a massive aid package.

It was a little like the spoilt child of estranged parents. Who is willing to give the most?

But it is beyond that now.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20140311-703598.html

Link to the financial figure in The Wall Street journal.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

ca04 — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 23:15:21 GMT

UK/US have always been keen to have a fleet access to this location.

Re: Unrest in the Crimea

silverfaun — Thu, 13 Mar 2014 23:22:38 GMT

@ca04 wrote:
True The circumcised members of the money sector in the states has always done very well out of conflicts including wars.

I'm sorry but what do you mean by the circumcised members.