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Consulate Help

grandmoon — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 06:55:26 GMT

When a person decides to live in another country should they intitled to Consulate help.

A SEX offender serving time in an Indonesian jail has complained he has been discriminated against by the Australian government because he has not been given the ''Schapelle Corby treatment''.

The 67-year-old retired accountant, who is serving an eight-year jail term for having sex with under-age boys, is angry that the Australian consulate general is not helping him to get out of jail on parole before his sentence expires.

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azureline** — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 06:58:17 GMT

I am sure if Corby had been convicted of molesting children, no one would have given her any help at all..............

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punch*drunk — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 07:13:16 GMT

Perhaps he's a bit put out becaues Schapelles crime is still considered a crime here in Australia, but in most states of Australia its not against the law to have sex with someone over 16. So in fact its very unlikely he'd even be considered a sex offender here.

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azureline** — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 07:25:35 GMT

Two were under 18 and told police he had molested them.

The Australian consulate general in Bali has refused to give Grandfield a letter of guarantee, which foreign prisoners must obtain in order to be given parole. The letter serves as a guarantee from the home country that the prisoner will be of good behaviour if released.

The Australian consul-general, Majell Hind, told Grandfield in writing that the decision not to supply the letter of guarantee had been signed off by the Minister for Foreign Affairs.

''In making this decision, the government has taken into account the nature of the offences for which you were convicted and has concluded it could not appropriately extend the required guarantee regarding your behaviour during a period of parole,'' she said in the letter

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meh_too — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 07:28:42 GMT

He should cite 'cultural differences' as a defence. Seems to work in Australia

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/news/crime-court/all-charges-dropped-against-registered-sex-offencer/story-fnjuhoxe-1226838013886

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the_great_she_elephant — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:17:00 GMT

Two were under 18 and told police he had molested them.

Under 18 might also mean under 16 and sexul assault is sexual assault whatever the age of the victim.

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punch*drunk — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:26:20 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Two were under 18 and told police he had molested them.

Under 18 might also mean under 16 and sexul assault is sexual assault whatever the age of the victim.

The article says 16-17, like I said, not even a crime in most parts of Australia. It says that he is serving time for having sex with them, no mention of assault or rape.

Not that I'm condoning it and I fully believe if you want to travel to or live in another country you should abide by their laws, customs and punishments. But Schapelle would still be a drug smuggler under Australian law, he would not necesssarily be a sex offender. I think he has a right to be annoyed.

I dont think our government should be offering any guarantees on the behaviour of any convicted criminals.

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azureline** — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:42:10 GMT

I think he is a sexual deviant. He belongs in prison.

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punch*drunk — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:49:01 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
I think he is a sexual deviant. He belongs in prison.

I agree, however if he had sex with 16-17yo boys here in Australia he most likely wouldnt be in any trouble.

Perhaps thats a failing with our laws?

Unfortunately there's probably not enough prisons in the world to lock up all the dirty old men that want to have sex with much,much younger boys or girls. But I guess the line has to be drawn somewhere as far as the age of consent goes.

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the_great_she_elephant — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 12:38:54 GMT

Two were under 18 and told police he had molested them.

That's a bit different from simply having sex with them.

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j*oono — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:30:51 GMT

He is 67 years old and he had sex with 16 and 17 year old male prostitutes.

I suppose only part of the story was told in that article. I don't want him back here really.

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ca04 — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:48:05 GMT

He was charged with sex with underaged persons which is still a crime in Australia.

The only difference is the age limits.

When in Rome, follow their laws.

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*elizabeths-mum* — Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:07:18 GMT

Sodomy laws differ in each state so his acts would probably have been illegal somewhere here. I think the age gap is taken into consideration as well.