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    <title>topic Re: Alcohol question in Community Spirit</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1169681#M314934</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;For anyone who is afraid of AA or NA or Al Anon because of the "&lt;STRONG&gt;AA&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;god thing&lt;/STRONG&gt;". I want to say this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You take what you need and leave the rest.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;Using the "&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;god thing&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 1.2;"&gt;" as a reason for not getting sober or, in Al Anon for refusing to stop enabling a drunken addicted family member or friend is a lame excuse.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;AA, NA and Al Anon aren't &amp;nbsp;religions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;You take what you need and leave the rest.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:24:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>buzzlightyearsgirlfriend</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-04-18T13:24:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164579#M313900</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If a small framed female say weighing around 46 - 50 kilos drank bourbon and coke from around 3.20pm to between 9 - 10 every week night do you believe she would still be over the limit if she got in her car to drive at say 6am the morning after .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Someone i know drinks like this and its more on a Friday and Saturday night as she stays up later. She doesnt see her drinking as a problem because she budgets for it . In 6 days she has drunk 2 x 1.25 ltrs bourbon and started on a 3rd not to mention all the coke tht she has also .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe if she got pulled over on the way to work one morning she would blow over the limit, would you agree ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:10:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164579#M313900</guid>
      <dc:creator>hahahavefun</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T21:10:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164593#M313903</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Its not something anyone here can answer accurately I dont think.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Buy her a tester thingy and test her lol.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:32:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164593#M313903</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T21:32:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164607#M313906</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Many years ago when I did a RSA course we were told as a general rule of thumb, once you had reached the legal limit (one drink in the first hour for women and 2 for men) for every drink you have after that you should allow one hour for it to leave your system.&amp;nbsp; So in your example if she has had 1 drink per hour for 6 hours it would take about 5-6 hours for her to be safe to drive.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Obviously that is not scientific and shouldn't be taken as the same in every person, but that was the theory back then.&amp;nbsp; The thinking&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;may well have changed by now though.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:42:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164607#M313906</guid>
      <dc:creator>lurker17260</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T21:42:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164625#M313908</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As said, everyone is different but at a guess, I would say a very good chance she would be over the limit sometimes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Especially if she doesn't eat anything at the same time. A portable tester as a gift might be good.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The drinking could creep into weeknights as well and &amp;nbsp;there could begin to be health problems with kidneys, liver, bladder, not just from the bourbon but the coke also.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It can be difficult to help but perhaps a new activity, something to break the cycle.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164625#M313908</guid>
      <dc:creator>kopenhagen5</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T21:55:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164631#M313910</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is that a slim model type woman or one of those gina sized type woman.?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="smileylol" class="emoticon emoticon-smileylol" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-lol.png" alt="Smiley LOL" title="Smiley LOL" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:58:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164631#M313910</guid>
      <dc:creator>ca04</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T21:58:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164639#M313912</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is during the week also , 7 days a week , just that friday and saturdays she drinks more because she stays up later as she doesnt have to get up for work the next morning .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;She cannot go a day without drinking I know she is an alcoholic as the family does but you dont dare say that to her . Someone once told her she had a problem and she went off saying her drinking isnt a problem because she factors that into her budget .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I might look at getting one of the testers and just make out when were having a bbq in a couple of weeks as a fun thing just to see how higher reading she gets .&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:04:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164639#M313912</guid>
      <dc:creator>hahahavefun</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T22:04:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164741#M313921</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Doing the "lets see what our readings are" thing is about the only thing you can do.&amp;nbsp; I'm sure she would know she's got a problem drinking too much but as much as you'd like to help, to be honest, it's her business how she lives her life.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd be worried about her hurting someone, driving while still affected in the mornings but unless she's caught in a RBT or has an accident, I don't think anything you say will change her.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's hard to watch someone slowly kill thmeselves but her choice.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:13:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164741#M313921</guid>
      <dc:creator>soul_art</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-16T23:13:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164865#M313944</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If she is an alcoholic and still drinks, perhaps it would be a good thing if she was caught just over the limit at any time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;She says she has to have a&amp;nbsp; regular one drink........she probaby has more....pisspots tend to lie about their problem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 00:37:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164865#M313944</guid>
      <dc:creator>freshwater-2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T00:37:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164939#M313954</link>
      <description>Maybe you direct this question to Piers Akerman.He'd know the answer.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 01:24:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164939#M313954</guid>
      <dc:creator>spotweldersfriend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T01:24:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164995#M313964</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;piers has a driver to avoid the breatho. he's a roly poly dean martin without the charm or sense of humor (not to mention the intelligence and literary skill)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 01:49:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1164995#M313964</guid>
      <dc:creator>lakeland27</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T01:49:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165361#M314023</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/657325"&gt;@hahahavefun&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;If a small framed female say weighing around 46 - 50 kilos drank bourbon and coke from around 3.20pm to between 9 - 10 every week night do you believe she would still be over the limit if she got in her car to drive at say 6am the morning after .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Someone i know drinks like this and its more on a Friday and Saturday night as she stays up later. She doesnt see her drinking as a problem because she budgets for it . In 6 days she has drunk 2 x 1.25 ltrs bourbon and started on a 3rd not to mention all the coke tht she has also .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe if she got pulled over on the way to work one morning she would blow over the limit, would you agree ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe she would be over the limit and most probably an alcoholic.&lt;img id="womansad" class="emoticon emoticon-womansad" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_woman-sad.png" alt="Woman Sad" title="Woman Sad" /&gt; When you say "coke" is this coca cola or the other kind of "coke"?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:13:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165361#M314023</guid>
      <dc:creator>boris1gary</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T04:13:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165535#M314053</link>
      <description>You are a good friend to be concerned. Yes, it is a drinking problem.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The rule of one drink for women in the first hour two for men, then one per hour afterwards, is considered not reliable by the police these days...there was advice about that in the paper a few years ago from them, as it does matter what size you are, and also, whether you are eating. People also have individual effects on alcohol breakdown, some faster, some slower (to do with alcohol dehydrogenase).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;She could harm herself and others if she has an accident...try the tester game but I hope she doesn't see it as pointed...be careful.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Drinkers tend to not take on board being over the limit, but think oh, maybe had one more tonight, that was it, it takes a bit to wake them up.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Good luck...hope you can help.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:06:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165535#M314053</guid>
      <dc:creator>amber-eyed-girl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T05:06:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165597#M314060</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I thought the OP meant coca-cola.....maybe they are concerned about all the sugar shes having too. lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:33:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165597#M314060</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T05:33:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165701#M314077</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@just*duff wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I thought the OP meant coca-cola.....maybe they are concerned about all the sugar shes having too. lol&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="womanlol" class="emoticon emoticon-womanlol" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_woman-lol.png" alt="Woman LOL" title="Woman LOL" /&gt;I thought maybe the "coke" was for sobering up.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:08:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165701#M314077</guid>
      <dc:creator>boris1gary</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T06:08:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165737#M314083</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="smileylol" class="emoticon emoticon-smileylol" src="https://community.ebay.com.au/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-lol.png" alt="Smiley LOL" title="Smiley LOL" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;well she works and she budgets apparently&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:19:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1165737#M314083</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T06:19:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166333#M314208</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hic !! ooosh takin bout me halter ago??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:54:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166333#M314208</guid>
      <dc:creator>poddster</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T09:54:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166367#M314215</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm still trying to do the maths.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So 1.25 over 3 nights is about 400ml per night.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6 doubles maybe?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A lot yes, but how much is a bottle or two of wine a night?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does it compare?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:19:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ten*teeny*tiny*toes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T10:19:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166639#M314250</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; A standard bottle is 700ml.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; So more than 1/2 bottle of bourbon a night? Wow....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;She doesn't have a drinking problem.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; She has a staying sober problem&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 11:50:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166639#M314250</guid>
      <dc:creator>imastawka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T11:50:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166691#M314264</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What if you try to trap her at the BBQ with the little self tester and she doesn't want to play the game?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are you going to make a thing of it, will others get stuck into her from not playing along?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does she get to fit much food into her stomach, if I had that much to drink I doubt I could eat a proper meal at night or breakfast and I am a big eating fatty female.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just recently there was a footballer in trouble for being over the limit in the morning after a drinking session and footballers really are large men so you would think that they would be less likely than a slim female to be over the limit.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:32:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>i-once-was-bump</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T12:32:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Alcohol question</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Alcohol-question/m-p/1166751#M314272</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/437353"&gt;@poddster&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hic !! ooosh takin bout me halter ago??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I agree with you in that this topic fits you, I don't find it amusing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alcoholics and addicts destroy many more&amp;nbsp;lives than their own. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:58:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>buzzlightyearsgirlfriend</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-17T12:58:57Z</dc:date>
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