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What do smokers think?

donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 06:45:06 GMT

This seems completely illogical to me

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ecigarettes-case-goes-up-in-smoke-following-landmark-ruling-in-wa-court-20140419-36xih.html

Re: What do smokers think?

twyngwyn — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:05:26 GMT

Big Tobacco is probably 'funding the prosecution'

Re: What do smokers think?

spotweldersfriend — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:08:22 GMT

Well a cynic would say there's more revenue for the government by selling real cigarettes,but not me.
The govt is committed to getting people off cigarettes because they're concerned for peoples health.Besides,it leaves more room in their lungs for vehicle exhaust toxins to lodge.

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daydream**believer — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:10:40 GMT

we have a guy that has an e cig stand at our Sunday markets every weekend

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purple_haize — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:17:46 GMT

Well, I have never heard of them.

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donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:20:50 GMT

They are actually quite good and probably save you 90% cost wise and don't offend anyone else, you could take a puff in a restaurant for example without anyone noticing.

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daydream**believer — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:25:15 GMT

but they do make smoke of some sort.

I see the guy at the markets puffing on them and there is some sort of smoke coming off them

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donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:26:50 GMT

@daydream**believer wrote:
but they do make smoke of some sort.
I see the guy at the markets puffing on them and there is some sort of smoke coming off them

You can see it but there is no smell, one of my friends turned up one day and came into my kitchen and for a joke asked if I minded if he lit up, before I had a chance to say a thing he was puffing away.

Re: What do smokers think?

j*oono — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:27:42 GMT

I have one that I bought online ages ago and well before I gave up for real but did it cold turkey.

I can't see the point in banning them when cigarettes are legal but I didn't find it even really helped me to cut down. I still have it somewhere but I threw out all the nicotine cartridges.

Re: What do smokers think?

donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:30:11 GMT

I think there are good and bad ones, last time I saw Margo she was smoking them.

For smokers that don't want to give up they are probably a healthier option

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j*oono — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:30:36 GMT

Daydream, the smoke is just vapour and disappears. It doesn't smell and there is no chance of second hand smoking.

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j*oono — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:32:32 GMT

That was the idea Donna. I didn't even want to give up smoking at the time but it was supposedly to help me cut down because I was always lighting up whilst I was busy doing other things and letting them burn away. It didn't really replace the real thing for me though.

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lionrose.7 — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:55:25 GMT

I have a e- cig and I really like it, better then a normal cig, helps you cut down and has very little smoke that does not smell.

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donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:57:48 GMT

@lionrose.7 wrote:
I have a e- cig and I really like it, better then a normal cig, helps you cut down and has very little smoke that does not smell.

I think the other thing is that smokers are treated like outcasts nowadays so this is a way they can satisfy themselves without upsetting anyone else.

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j*oono — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:16:03 GMT

Cute, innit?

It's the exact size as a real cigarette.

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margomeoz — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:17:17 GMT

j*oono they have been great for me I cut down from 60 real ciggys to 10 a day, I don't want to give up so not trying to but I am happy I can use these everywhere I go and I am saving the money on 5 packs a week at $32 a pack of 50.

I think it is a disgrace if they try to ban them just because some fool did not read the instructions.

I do think the best one is the green smoke though, there are cheaper ones but they were no good.

And I can get menthol.

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j*oono — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:23:33 GMT

That's fantastic Margo. Smoking only 10 a day is a hell of a saving and I bet you feel some health benefits too.

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ten*teeny*tiny*toes — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:02:09 GMT

Well I feel a bit stupid. I had no idea they had nicotine in them.

I thought it was just some harmless vapour vapour making it more 'real' to help with the hand mouth thing like I did smoking a pencil.

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lakeland27 — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:19:59 GMT

Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly.[1] Historically, most cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of nicotine as an insecticide.[2][3] More recent cases of poisoning typically appear to be in the form of Green Tobacco Sickness or due to accidental ingestion of tobacco or tobacco products or ingestion of nicotine containing plants.[4][5][6]

The probable lethal dose of nicotine has been reported as between 500 and 1000 mg (Prof. Mayer, How much Nicotine kills a human?. Historical data as between 40 and 60 milligrams (the total amount in about 2 cigarettes if all of the nicotine was absorbed) in adults and about 1 mg/kg in children (less than 1 cigarette) .[7][8][9] Children may become ill following ingestion of one cigarette,[10] ingestion of more than this may cause a child to become severely ill.[11][5] In some cases children have become poisoned by topical medicinal creams which contain nicotine.[12]

People who harvest or cultivate tobacco may experience Green Tobacco Sickness (GTS), a type of nicotine poisoning caused by dermal exposure to wet tobacco leaves. This occurs most commonly in young, inexperienced tobacco harvesters who do not use tobacco.[4][13]

i can see this as a problem , the cartridges or refills may be extremely toxic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

Re: What do smokers think?

donnashuggy — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:23:51 GMT

The Nicotine ones are banned in Australia most likely for that reason.