topic Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help in Community Spirit

Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:13:48 GMT

Seems like they are being punished instead and life is going to be made harder for them.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

fourandsixpants — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:17:26 GMT

what have you?

meaning?....pls expand

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:20:14 GMT

@paintsew007 wrote:
what have you?
meaning?....pls expand

It's not easy to get a job when you have a disability

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

imastawka — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:23:19 GMT

Agreed

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-10/people-on-disability-support-pension-ability-to-work-reassessed/5444110

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

fourandsixpants — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:27:29 GMT

Hhhhhmmmmmn.

That all you got?

Could sound ominous.

Nasty situation. Very nasty. Low even

....."People With a Disability Australia president Craig Wallace said there must be a focus on creating jobs.

And he has questioned how the Government can be considering changes before it has released a broader review of the welfare system by Patrick McClure.

"We haven't even seen the interim report of the McClure review, which is meant to provide a methodical and evidence-based approach," he said.

.....this coalition govt is not focused on creating jobs for anybody.....jus 'slash and cut'......let alone for people with disabilities.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

poddster — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:25:46 GMT

Made harder for these people, a good idea dont you think?

The Department of Human Services says its hotline has received 1,116 Medicare-related tip-offs since July 1, 2013.

Officers have investigated 275 cases, which has translated into 34 cases submitted to the Commonwealth Department of Public Prosecutions and 12 convictions.

The value of those 12 cases adds up to an estimated $474,000, with fraudsters ripping off an average of almost $40,000 each."

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:29:42 GMT

Made harder for these people, a good idea dont you think?

Offer them a job poddy, that is a good idea 🙂 When can they start? What kind of job? How many jobs out there cater for these varied disabilities?

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

fourandsixpants — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:35:43 GMT

....what about all the tax haven types in the big end of town???......what about all the international companies operating at a profit here in Oz then avoiding paying tax????

Surely both these avenues of stockpiling $'s would be energy better spent by this Coalition mobster lot than paying doctors and specialists - we are short of them so a lot of newly emigrated Drs and specialists will be rubbing their hands together, looking forward to this little lark!....(their 'mates' would have fully versed them on how to rort the system!!) - to reassess a few people?

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

poddster — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:39:52 GMT

Donna why would I or anyone offer a job to fraudsters?

Arn't there enough of those already?

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:42:13 GMT

@poddster wrote:
Donna why would I or anyone offer a job to fraudsters?

Arn't there enough of those already?

I was actually talking about people with disabilities, you can interview fraudsters instead if you like, knock them back and that is all they will need to prove they have looked for work 🙂

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

fourandsixpants — Sat, 10 May 2014 06:44:23 GMT

Trust me on this one.

The Coalition would be wise and better advised to put energies into investigating the operations and books of recently appointed and newly arrived doctors and specialists who have a free range in our public hospital system. Doubling up on procedures per patient etc etc and then charging it to our Medicare......check it out!!

.....but leave our disabled ALONE you monsters.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

*crikey*mate* — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:06:05 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
@poddster wrote:
Donna why would I or anyone offer a job to fraudsters?

Arn't there enough of those already?
I was actually talking about people with disabilities, you can interview fraudsters instead if you like, knock them back and that is all they will need to prove they have looked for work 🙂

I read this article earlier

Easy access to welfare is over: Andrews

and I agree with it.

Of course there are many who cannot work for all sorts of reasons, but there are also many examples of where the "experts" have gotten it wrong too.

I know one young man who would probably qualify for the DSP just based on his anxiety issues, not taking into consideration other issues including poor fine and gross motor skills, a Cerabellum Development Disorder which affects his balance etc (CDD) and a whole hiost of other labels such as OCD etc.

Nope, he can't tie his shoelaces, do up buttons or walk in a straight line, and probably not even cross a road safely, without assistance.

But what he can and does do is attend university full time, operates his own tutoring business, works part time in sound and production and also, as of march this year is managing a small takeaway shop with his younger brother.

The experts said he can't work, would never be able to, that he was destined for a life of institutional living or maybe in assisted care - they were wrong.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

izabsmiling — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:05:55 GMT

Promoting negative stereotypes of groups of people is 'positive thing' in your view is it Poddster?

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:09:41 GMT

I know what you mean Crikey, many in the workforce can't think for themselves or do up their shoes yet they have a job 🙂

I was talking about the ones that have disabilities like you mention "Of course there are many who cannot work for all sorts of reasons," a bit of job creation might help them but poddy described them as fraudsters earlier 😞

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

izabsmiling — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:11:40 GMT

cross him off the suitable employer list

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

poddster — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:13:05 GMT

Just another shining example of not reading what was written. My post was about people defrauding the disability system and you suggested that i give those people a job.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

donnashuggy — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:16:01 GMT

@poddster wrote:
Just another shining example of not reading what was written. My post was about people defrauding the disability system and you suggested that i give those people a job.

This thread is about Australians with disabilities, you responded that you agreed it should be harder for them.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

fourandsixpants — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:16:06 GMT

Well if there are fraudsters on disability then should not the diagnostic procedures and the diagnosing Drs be investigated?

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

izabsmiling — Sat, 10 May 2014 09:29:21 GMT

what does this (your signature) mean Poddster?

your siggie:I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Re: Australians with disabilities need some positive help

poddster — Sat, 10 May 2014 07:24:53 GMT

Donna, you may want to re read my original post, this time instead of seeing what you want to see read the words

Made harder for these people, a good idea dont you think?

The Department of Human Services says its hotline has received 1,116 Medicare-related tip-offs since July 1, 2013.

Officers have investigated 275 cases, which has translated into 34 cases submitted to the Commonwealth Department of Public Prosecutions and 12 convictions.

The value of those 12 cases adds up to an estimated $474,000, with fraudsters ripping off an average of almost $40,000 each."

My reference is about people defrauding the system, did you miss the salient point?