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Worst Goverment In Australia's Recent History

tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:16:17 GMT

For some strange reason I'm finding it difficult to post comments on some political threads so I decided to start my own.

I would have to say the worst government in recent history would have to be the one lead by Gough, with those lead by Howard and Abbott being a close second.

Compared to those three, the Rudd and Gillard Government Punch and Judy show doesn’t rate mention.

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debra9275 — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:22:06 GMT

I don't remember much about the Whitlam Govt. Other than that they ended conscription, the Howard govt's push into the Iraq war based on lies, and the children overboard are what stand out there for me,

but I think this Abbott govt. Is the one that will go down in the history books as the worst govt. ever.

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icyfroth — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:36:50 GMT

Would have to be the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus hands down.

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:40:55 GMT

All three have one thing in common. A belief they in the divine right to rule, and they were/are prepared to do just about anything to rule.

Gough, well to get elected he simply decided to divide the nation by marginalising a significant portion of it, and in doing so, he created a rift which took decade to heal, and in some cases has never healed.

As for Howard and Abbott they simply have an absolute contempt for the democratic process.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:46:45 GMT

I agree the Howard and Abbott governments are the worst seen. whitlam not so much, but i do applauid the fraser govts humane approach to refugee policy . we need the same regional plan he enacted. gillard tried something similar but the coalition spoiler tactics won the day.

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freakiness — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:50:57 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
Would have to be the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus hands down.

Why?

What did they do to earn such contempt?

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 00:54:38 GMT

I do not agree. Yes Gillard and Rudd was a circus where it was often hard to decide which clown was in charge, but they could not, and did not do any lasting harm. But the other three, did, have done, and can still do exactly that.

That is the reason why I have publically stated, though in the past I voted LNP, I not now do so until the backbench regrows a backbone and boots him (Abbott) out.

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spotweldersfriend — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:07:50 GMT

This governments right up there with the worst.Howard gets my nod for divisiveness and war crimes.At least Gough brought in some much needed reforms like universal healthcare.

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boris1gary — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:19:35 GMT

Not to mention
ended conscription and withdrew Australian troops from Vietnam.
implemented equal pay for women.
launched an inquiry into education and funded government and non-government schools on a needs basis.
established a separate ministry responsible for aboriginal affairs and supported the idea of land rights.
recast our foreign policy by withdrawing support for South Africa, recognising China, granting independence to Papua-New Guinea and distancing Australia from USA foreign policy.
abolished tertiary education fees and established the Tertiary Education Assistance Scheme.
increased pensions.
established a universal system of health insurance known as Medibank.
established controls on foreign ownership of Australian resources.
passed a series of laws banning racial and sexual discrimination.
extended maternity leave and benefits for single mothers.
sought to democratise the electoral system by introducing one-vote-one-value.

Yes, what a terrible mob.

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:20:43 GMT

Sorry but Gough has to the top of my list.

For instancd, as a direct result of his actions, servicing member and returned service perssonel, and their families were specifically targets for “special treatment”, and those subject to that treatment have long/very long memories. For instance I know of one person who’s family was subjected to that treatment and who’s sole reason for living is so that when he (Gough) dies she can go an urinate on his grave. The hate is real, and palpable and harm done was permanent.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:26:10 GMT

thats just misguided.

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:27:15 GMT

Sorry Boris but nothing he did in office can ever excuse what he was prepared to do to get into office.

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:28:54 GMT

In what way?

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fourandsixpants — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:36:33 GMT

http://www.news.com.au/national/windsor-calls-out-abbott-youd-do-anything-but-sell-your-**bleep**/story-fndo4eg9-1226452005882

Mr Windsor said Mr Abbott had offered to do just about anything for support to head a Coalition minority government after the 2010 election.

He said: "He begged for the job and he made the point, not only to me but to others that were in that negotiating period, that he would do anything to get that job, anything to get that job.

"And you would well remember and your colleagues should be aware, that the only codicil that you put on that (was), `I will do anything , Tony (Windsor) to get that job. The only thing I wouldn't do is to sell my **bleep**'."

well he has told the most and biggest porkies to date in the early term of his governance, over all his predecesors and looks like he is prepared to trample over everyone and anyone now that he has the job that he did anything to get. Great work Tone!

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boris1gary — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:33:07 GMT

interesting little sideline.....although murdoch did support Gough for a time....

Murdoch backed Fraser and the Coalition with gusto in the 1975 election campaign, so much so that journalists at his newspapers took industrial action in protest. Labor did not return to government for more than seven years when Hawke defeated Fraser at the March 1983 federal election.

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lakeland27 — Mon, 12 May 2014 01:45:40 GMT

servicing member and returned service perssonel, and their families were specifically targets for “special treatment”

This. friends i have ex-services make no mention of the government doing this. elements of the public , the RSL yes .

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 02:06:11 GMT

Can you please include East Timor to the list.

As for the journalists I believe quite a few changed their minds when they found out what happed to those on East Timor, and the fact that Gough pretty much sanctioned the killings by turning a blind eye to them.

But then 75 was a good year. Was posted to RAAF Butterworth; April to be precise. Still recall sitting on the tarmac waiting to ride shotgun on the Hercs that were flying into and out of Saigon.

Gough found out and had a fit. Had the planes turned around and the troops offloaded. Eeach was carrying a rifle section as a secuity detachment - personal weapons only. No crew served weapons.

Why? Because he’d much rather have sent Australian Air Force aircraft into a hot LZ without any security at all (not even so much a pistol in the cockpit), then to be seen as the Labor Prime Minister who sent Australian ground forces back into Vietnam even, if their sole purpose there was the safety of the aircraft and the persons on board.

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icyfroth — Mon, 12 May 2014 02:12:54 GMT

@freakiness wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
Would have to be the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus hands down.
Why?

What did they do to earn such contempt?

ok where to start?

Ms Gillard backstabbing her boss for the job

Her handling of the Slipper affair

Her handling of the Thomson affair

@her involvement in the union slush fund with Bruce Wilson @ Slater & Gordon

her painting a target on Australia by allowing a US marine installation at Darwin (aimed at China one of our biggest trading partners)

her gender wars

never mind the carbon tax lie

creating such a shambles of the party that she had to be replaced by none other than previous reject Mr Rudd....what the?

Mr Rudd throwing benefits around like lollies in a transparent and pathetic attempt to lure the Aus voter back to Labor.

Totally put me off the Labor party.

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boris1gary — Mon, 12 May 2014 02:20:31 GMT

her, her, her.....mmmmmmmmmm - most of that post (not all) was manufactured by the murdoch press , lots of spin and little reality. Regardless of the hatred whipped up against Ms Gillard and Mr Rudd, the things that really matter - welfare, the economy - just to mention 2 fared very well in comparison with the current mob of fools.

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tall_bearded — Mon, 12 May 2014 02:25:57 GMT

It was the 60’s and the hot topic of the day was the Vietnam War. Labor was in opposition and opposed to the war.

Now let’s go forward a few years and Howard is PM, and is going to send troops to Iraq. Labor is in opposition and opposed to our involvement.

Now to find out what the words special treatment means, just take a look what happened to service personnel and their families during both wars.