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Shorten Fails Again. Cheap Shots and Division.

silverfaun — Thu, 15 May 2014 22:54:00 GMT

Shorten Fails Again. Cheap Shots and Division.

Shorten is playing the lying game again, re igniting the class war and showing Labor has not changed from the Rudd Gillard years of failure and division.

His reply offered no solution to the problem they left behind, the silvertail socialist lecturing the government on how to run the budget staggers belief.

Shorten completely failed this test. He offered no solutions and accepted no responsibility to help fix the mess left by Labor.

His speech was all politics, and no economics.

Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen left Australia with a projected record $667 billion debt, but aren’t prepared to work with the Australian Government to begin fixing Labor's mess.

Nine months after being rejected by the Australian people, Labor has not changed and Mr Shorten is showing no leadership.

All he did last night was what he does and is used to doing in his union picket line guise, whipping up anger and resentment, advocating hate and envy and perpetuating the welfare mentality Labor is so addicted to.

His comrades call him Showbag but his real moniker should be Cheap Shot Shorten.

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debra9275 — Thu, 15 May 2014 23:02:23 GMT

I sent Shorten a congratulatory message last night on twitter, it sounded to me as if Labor are finally getting back to their roots

I also sent TA a message on his budget

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spotweldersfriend — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:30:51 GMT

They're no fools,the electorate,sf.They'll see right through Bill.Expect Tony's approval ratings to go through the roof with the next set of polls.:)

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boris1gary — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:34:17 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
I sent Shorten a congratulatory message last night on twitter, it sounded to me as if Labor are finally getting back to their roots

I also sent TA a message on his budget

Yes I sent Bill an email congratulating him on his budget reply, i think it was what we were all waiting and hoping for and he didn't disappoint.

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silverfaun — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:46:59 GMT

he made no effort reply to address the budget, he was legless because of the $600 BILLION debt they left behind themselves so he attacked, he used his time to politic, whip up anger and nothing else.

I see that the left still haven't moved on from the addictive politics of division, envy, class wars and gender wars so loved by Gillard and her ilk.

Poor things, they will languish in the doldrums for years and still cling onto the failures of the past, can't move on, can't offer anything new just more of the same.

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silverfaun — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:48:05 GMT

Poor Bill, all he could do was tell the disappointed how disappointed he is. What a fool and the fools lap it up.

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izabsmiling — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:55:55 GMT

business death sentence for Corporations involved in this corruption!

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tall_bearded — Fri, 16 May 2014 00:54:29 GMT

Abbott is the one who put the elephant in the room. So he’s really has no one, but himself, to blame for its existence.

Before the last election, when it came to election promises, the expectation was they were given in good faith, on the understanding that sometimes, things happens, which means they can’t be kept. As to mandates, the expectation was that Governments would limit themselves to what they had a mandate to do (express or implied), but again, on the understanding that sometimes, things happens which requires the Government to act in the absence of one. It then was then up to the electorate, at the next election, to decide the bona fides o the explanations given. These were norms accepted by all sides of politics, because all sides benefited from them, and they are the norms which the Abbott government wants it actions to be measured now.

So where’s the Elephant? During his last term in opposition, he, (Abbott), abandoned these norms. Instead from that point onwards promises became sacrosanct and incapable of being being broken irrespective of any change in circumstance. Now governments were bound by mandates or the absence thereof. Then he put the final nail in his own coffin by saying any Government which beaks It’s promises or introduced or amended legislation without a mandate was morally corrupt and therefore had right to govern.

So what happening now. He’s simply being measured against a yardstick of his own creation.

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izabsmiling — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:01:00 GMT

Silverfaun, I truly hope that ALL is revealed at ICAC .Don't you?

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freakiness — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:02:55 GMT

@silverfaun wrote:
he made no effort reply to address the budget, he was legless because of the $600 BILLION debt they left behind themselves so he attacked, he used his time to politic, whip up anger and nothing else.

Actually he did adress the budget. Didn't you watch his speech?

Where is this $600B debt you keep insisting that Labor left? The debt ceiling was $300B. Hockey raised it and almost doubled the debt.

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bluecat*dancing — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:10:35 GMT

I don't think you quite understand what the budget reply is for.

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fourandsixpants — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:22:06 GMT

Abbott is the one who put the elephant in the room. So he’s really has no one, but himself, to blame for its existence.

So what happening now. He’s simply being measured against a yardstick of his own creation.

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........new Senate is looking even more precarious for the government agenda with each passing week.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/new-senators-could-still-block-budget-20140514-zrcn2.html

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silverfaun — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:26:14 GMT

The budget reply is to outlay their plans to draw down debt and a vision for the future of Australia. Bill wants to bring back the welfare state, employ more service industry that relies on taxpayer money so same old same old from the old Bill.

All Bill did was rail and rant, whip up fear and start the class war all over again.

I suppose we can expect nothing else from Picket Line Bill whipping up unrest in the workplace after all that's all he's ever done.

Labor must look at the leader and wonder what on earth they did to deserve this hollow man, how could they make this leadership mistake again? The confected outrage that falls flat, the lies and innuendo and the what if's is all he ever does, the phoniness is obvious.

Personally I don't care if they keep him for the next decade, that will cement Labor's stay in Opposition.

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spotweldersfriend — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:26:14 GMT

That'll be poor Bill PM soon enough. 🙂

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boris1gary — Fri, 16 May 2014 01:44:33 GMT

yes i have ordered my I Bill T-shirt.

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boris1gary — Fri, 16 May 2014 02:10:55 GMT

Hilarious. can't have applause now can we - hahahahahahahhhha.

http://media.theage.com.au/news/national-news/christopher-pyne-directs-speaker-bronwyn-bishop-5429889.html

Speaker Bronwyn Bishop is prompted by Christopher Pyne to stop the applause for Bill Shorten after he gives a speech in response to the Budget.

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bluecat*dancing — Fri, 16 May 2014 02:13:38 GMT

I saw that, Boris, and I didn't know whether to laugh or shake my head in disbelief, so, I did both.

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boris1gary — Fri, 16 May 2014 02:17:30 GMT

Reminds me of "Mum, Muuuuuum tell him to stop laughing - mum, muuuum........it's not fair......mum, muuuum.....

all in a whiney nasally voice.

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cherry*135 — Fri, 16 May 2014 02:20:26 GMT

Did Abbott do any different?

" In his first Budget reply speech as Opposition Leader, Abbott sought to portray the Rudd Government's third budget as a "tax and spend" budget and promised to fight the election on the new mining "super-profits" tax proposed by Rudd."

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freakiness — Fri, 16 May 2014 02:30:54 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
Did Abbott do any different?

" In his first Budget reply speech as Opposition Leader, Abbott sought to portray the Rudd Government's third budget as a "tax and spend" budget and promised to fight the election on the new mining "super-profits" tax proposed by Rudd."

Yes, I don't think he had a gallery packed full of people applauding him.

The crowd applause seemed to upset Abbott and Hokey.