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Where were the LEFT and the protesters

nero_bolt — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:01:21 GMT

Where were the LEFT and the protesters when Gillard and the failed labor govt cut to 2.3 BILLION from university funding in 2013

The left and the rabble were very silent and no where to be seen

Have the left wing student movement had 6 years of built up anger to vent as soon as we get a LNP government? Think so as you barley heard a murmur from then under the failed Rudd/Gillard/Rudd govt

So it was all OK in the world of the left to cut 2.3 BILLION from uni education, seems so

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:02:35 GMT

No quite as bad as what's being proposed now

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

nero_bolt — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:04:15 GMT

The left will defend the 2.3 BILLION cuts to the death as it was made by the socialist left labor govt..

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:05:39 GMT

Nope, not defending anything but I certainly don't agree with the LNP's current plans

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:06:28 GMT

Buy a degree if you can afford it 🙂

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

bsal6160 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:08:29 GMT

University education is a priviledge NOT a right. User to pay for the priviledge not the general tax paying public I say.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

donnashuggy — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:09:14 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
Where were the LEFT and the protesters when Gillard and the failed labor govt cut to 2.3 BILLION from university funding in 2013

The left and the rabble were very silent and no where to be seen

Have the left wing student movement had 6 years of built up anger to vent as soon as we get a LNP government? Think so as you barley heard a murmur from then under the failed Rudd/Gillard/Rudd govt

So it was all OK in the world of the left to cut 2.3 BILLION from uni education, seems so

Where are you NOW?

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:12:25 GMT

Users do pay already, it's called HECS I have a daughter currently attending uni. She will repay her debt when she has finished her degree.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

icyfroth — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:14:56 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
Where were the LEFT and the protesters when Gillard and the failed labor govt cut to 2.3 BILLION from university funding in 2013

The left and the rabble were very silent and no where to be seen

Have the left wing student movement had 6 years of built up anger to vent as soon as we get a LNP government? Think so as you barley heard a murmur from then under the failed Rudd/Gillard/Rudd govt

So it was all OK in the world of the left to cut 2.3 BILLION from uni education, seems so

The silence is deafening.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

nero_bolt — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:18:05 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
Users do pay already, it's called HECS I have a daughter currently attending uni. She will repay her debt when she has finished her degree.

Incorrect she wont have to pay a cent until she reaches 51K in wages per year so please get it correct.....

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:19:26 GMT

I just hope there are some jobs left , she is hoping to get a graduate position

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:20:24 GMT

They do pay it back Nero, so I am correct

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

punch*drunk — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:21:47 GMT

Serious question....what happens to the HECS debt if the person never earns over the threshold? Does it still get paid back at some point, out of their estate? or is it just lost money?

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

bsal6160 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:23:32 GMT

And if she then goes on the dole afterwards? User to pay UPFRONT may be more incentive for them to attend and study hard.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:24:40 GMT

I don't know Punch, but it should be repaid from their estate if they've never reached the threshold, maybe Nero would know?

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

fourandsixpants — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:25:20 GMT

no. it was not alright to cut spending to uni's or any educational programme nero and it is definitely not alright to 'threaten' to cut spending now or into the future in education-especially when this Treasurer, Mr Hockey is insisting that young Australians either learn or earn......not that there are any jobs in Australia at the mo to go onto once our young are all most learned. It must be noted that

Cuts at ANY time to education is a 'no-no', but let me be quite frank. Apart from forecasts beyond 2017/18, where and what exactly are these real cuts? I have not seen any figures of actual cuts to education. Just more hyperactive frenzied media beat-up perpetuating what a 'tough' budget we have been delivered to suit both sides of this political <DRAMA>.

However,I believe that it should be Legislated (or mandatory) that at every budget, no matter which party rules, that a set % of each budget should be allocated to Education and Health.....not at the whim of each govt each budget to decide, no minimum-nothing to be fiddled with.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

debra9275 — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:26:00 GMT

She will not go on the dole, if she has trouble finding work, we 'll support her until she does.

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

donnashuggy — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:26:37 GMT

@bsal6160 wrote:
And if she then goes on the dole afterwards? User to pay UPFRONT may be more incentive for them to attend and study hard.

lol

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

nero_bolt — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:27:13 GMT

@punch*drunk wrote:
Serious question....what happens to the HECS debt if the person never earns over the threshold? Does it still get paid back at some point, out of their estate? or is it just lost money?

They never have to pay if back if they never earn over $51000 they get their education for free and in this country these people do not have to put their fees up front, the govt pays it until they earn over 51K

Re: Where were the LEFT and the protesters

donnashuggy — Wed, 21 May 2014 10:30:26 GMT

Can you please go to uni nero (hugs)