topic Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently? in Community Spirit

Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

donnashuggy — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:18:43 GMT

Or does your bias and prejudice prevent you from making a careful consideration?

I'm definitely biased and have some prejudices against the right however I could be persuaded to vote differently if someone could show me how we would all be better off.

For one, I do agree with an increase in the GST, I do believe that a closer look into welfare is not a bad thing.

Can anyone convince me that the Government hasn't lied to the voting public? That is a big one for me.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

azureline** — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:24:12 GMT

I can be convinced to change a vote but I never decide until the last half hour usually and I don't think I have ever voted for the same party twice in a row. I vote for the person standing in my electorate, usually the one I see doing the better job.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

donnashuggy — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:28:59 GMT

I guess it does depend where you live, I live in the safest Liberal seat in Australia I think lol however it is a traditional working class area. I'm sure there are a lot in my area that would vote purely because of the paid parental leave (I'm guessing though)

My brother on the other hand voted for Abbott and couldn't be happier because he believes there is a lot more confidence in the business world.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

cherry*135 — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:30:11 GMT

Can anyone convince me that the Government hasn't lied to the voting public?

Not me, not Bill either.

"BILL Shorten now refers to Tony Abbott as “the national champion of lying”

A report from the polling firm UMR Research, the weekend after the Budget, included the heading: “Voters accept ‘lies’ language regarding Abbott”.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

fourandsixpants — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:31:28 GMT

Honestly?

This fiberal government has blatantly LIED to voters and the world.

GST was always going to go up. Other countries have higher rates .I wondered when Oz govt would attempt this.

12.5% is a figure that springs to mind for no real reason. The talked about increases of higher amounts is just greed talking IMO.

Increased GST is what this whole budget carp is really about! THIS is the REAL AGENDA I'm sure. Don't know why they didn't just spit it out in the first place......no they have to invent some circus garbage event to hide their real agenda behind.

Pathetic, gutless mobsters. No respect from me. No vote of respect either.

If welfare is to be looked into then the welfare and perks recently granted to the wealthy end of town like decreased luxury car tax (LCT) seems a mite hypocritical, doesn't it?.....was 33% now about 17-18% from estimates.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

boris1gary — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:31:35 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
Or does your bias and prejudice prevent you from making a careful consideration?

I'm definitely biased and have some prejudices against the right however I could be persuaded to vote differently if someone could show me how we would all be better off.

For one, I do agree with an increase in the GST, I do believe that a closer look into welfare is not a bad thing.

Can anyone convince me that the Government hasn't lied to the voting public? That is a big one for me.

The GST is a regressive tax, I didn't support it when it was introduced and I still don't. "A closer look into welfare", pffft - some job creation instead of job destruction would be a better option.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

cherry*135 — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:32:52 GMT

My brother on the other hand voted for Abbott and couldn't be happier because he believes there is a lot more confidence in the business world.

That is because of all the reforms Hockey is interested in introducing, the only advtanges of any them is to business people & higher income earners. That is his ultimate aim... lower company tax again and tax cuts for the high income earners.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

donnashuggy — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:36:02 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:
Or does your bias and prejudice prevent you from making a careful consideration?

I'm definitely biased and have some prejudices against the right however I could be persuaded to vote differently if someone could show me how we would all be better off.

For one, I do agree with an increase in the GST, I do believe that a closer look into welfare is not a bad thing.

Can anyone convince me that the Government hasn't lied to the voting public? That is a big one for me.

The GST is a regressive tax, I didn't support it when it was introduced and I still don't. "A closer look into welfare", pffft - some job creation instead of job destruction would be a better option.

Yes we need jobs, I agree.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

amber-eyed-girl — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:36:56 GMT

I am like azureline, I vote for the person I think is best in the electorate. Safe seat here, so it does not much matter, my vote, but I still think about it carefully.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

azureline** — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:40:10 GMT

My OH has mostly been a Lib voter and believes they were better for business. However, he did not vote for them last time.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

donnashuggy — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:41:04 GMT

@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
I am like azureline, I vote for the person I think is best in the electorate. Safe seat here, so it does not much matter, my vote, but I still think about it carefully.

That's excellent. I think all the labelling doesn't help, there are hard working considerate people on both sides of the debate.

I just don't like the name calling and being told I am a 'hater' or 'have a welfare mentality' when obviously I don't fit either?

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

boris1gary — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:44:38 GMT

we pay the same GST as my Aunty who is on a pension with lots of health problems, our income is about 8.4 times more than hers, how is this fair. Income tax needs to rise, we are a low tax paying country - income tax is a fairer way than than the GST.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

catsnknots — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:47:37 GMT

I could never vote for Labor or any Union biased organisation like it... I have seen the very nasty side of the Unions, death threats (one to me personally because I didn't want to join a union) , destroying a business because they can't afford to pay the wages that the Union thinks it can.... don't like them at all.

If the Labor party honestly broke ties with the Unions.... went on their own path, got more business savvy, had a more friendly attitudes towards people with wealth and those that want to make money then I might be swayed...

But while they are a union based party I will never vote for them... while they have majority union MP's I will not vote for them...

Right now if I feel that the LNP were really straying off the path that they promised I would not vote for anyone at the next election... maybe an independent as I think it is a right to vote and would not feel comfortable wasting it. I think the L& N parties are doing what they said... the majority of people knew things were going to get tough... I knew changes would be made and I owuld have to pay more for something.

I would never vote PUP... I see that his businesses are so bad that they have not paid tax for 6 years... in fact they did so bad that they were deemed to have paid too much tax and are getting some of it back... who would want that person to run the country when he can't even run his own business...

Greens... nope.. nothing anyone does would make me vote green.. i think they are the biggest destroyers of our economic prosperity...

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

boris1gary — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:48:29 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
I am like azureline, I vote for the person I think is best in the electorate. Safe seat here, so it does not much matter, my vote, but I still think about it carefully.
That's excellent. I think all the labelling doesn't help, there are hard working considerate people on both sides of the debate.

I just don't like the name calling and being told I am a 'hater' or 'have a welfare mentality' when obviously I don't fit either?

I could care less what anyone calls me, I don't vote for individual personalities, doesn't matter - what is important is policy.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

cherry*135 — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:49:47 GMT

Do you think the 'hame calling' exists because the current Govts supporters haven't got anything else to go on? That is, they can't argue against the facts.. election promises broken, lies, unfair Budget, wink*gate etc.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

donnashuggy — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:50:07 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
we pay the same GST as my Aunty who is on a pension with lots of health problems, our income is about 8.4 times more than hers, how is this fair. Income tax needs to rise, we are a low tax paying country - income tax is a fairer way than than the GST.

I do understand that, but the more you earn, the more you spend, the more gst you pay.

Those on very low incomes don't pay much tax, I agree that the filthy rich should pay more.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

i-need-a-martini — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:51:04 GMT

I am biased towards Labor generally.

But I have voted Liberal (Greiner) and could be persuaded to vote for Turnbull.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

cherry*135 — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:51:43 GMT

boris - I would hazard a guess that you purchase more goods and services than you relative, therefore you pay more on GST into the coffers than they do.

GST isn't on a lot of food items, health or education services.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

amber-eyed-girl — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:54:21 GMT

Boris, I see your thinking. i think about both person and policy; will the person be able to represent their electorate, within the confines of expected policy...that is a factor. but, when policies change as governments are elected, I prefer to rest more weight in the person's ability to do a good job. And hopefully be a decent person.

Re: Can you be persuaded to vote differently?

purplecarrot-top — Sat, 24 May 2014 05:53:30 GMT

I am a labor supporter basically. Have voted Liberal a couple of times because of my local member. No way I would vote Liberal ATM.