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    <title>topic Re: Is GST only incurred on prepaid phones and tolls each time you use it? in Community Spirit</title>
    <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Is-GST-only-incurred-on-prepaid-phones-and-tolls-each-time-you/m-p/1302227#M342075</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;You can only be charged GST for goods and services you use/consume.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thus when you make a call, you receive the service. this is the point in time that you will be charged GST.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I guess they don't actually sell you the card iykwim - at that point you have not bought a good or used the service.It is only potential.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is the same for tolls.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, there is a GST component in your toll fees, but simply adding money to your account is not classified as using the service. It is not until you actually pass a toll point that you are charged the service fee associated with that toll, and it is at that time you "pay GST"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The money in these things are only potential spending - sort of like as if the money was still in your bank.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have just decided that this is where you will eventually spend that money and allocated it accordingly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:21:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>*crikey*mate*</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-06-09T07:21:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Is GST only incurred on prepaid phones and tolls each time you use it?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Is-GST-only-incurred-on-prepaid-phones-and-tolls-each-time-you/m-p/1301997#M342036</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you buy $50 phone credit there is no GST. If you put $50 on a toll account is there GST?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 05:20:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>orabrush</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-09T05:20:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is GST only incurred on prepaid phones and tolls each time you use it?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Is-GST-only-incurred-on-prepaid-phones-and-tolls-each-time-you/m-p/1302227#M342075</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can only be charged GST for goods and services you use/consume.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thus when you make a call, you receive the service. this is the point in time that you will be charged GST.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I guess they don't actually sell you the card iykwim - at that point you have not bought a good or used the service.It is only potential.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is the same for tolls.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, there is a GST component in your toll fees, but simply adding money to your account is not classified as using the service. It is not until you actually pass a toll point that you are charged the service fee associated with that toll, and it is at that time you "pay GST"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The money in these things are only potential spending - sort of like as if the money was still in your bank.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have just decided that this is where you will eventually spend that money and allocated it accordingly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:21:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Is-GST-only-incurred-on-prepaid-phones-and-tolls-each-time-you/m-p/1302227#M342075</guid>
      <dc:creator>*crikey*mate*</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-09T07:21:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Is GST only incurred on prepaid phones and tolls each time you use it?</title>
      <link>https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Is-GST-only-incurred-on-prepaid-phones-and-tolls-each-time-you/m-p/1303013#M342202</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ATO&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Issue 13 - Tax invoices for prepaid non rechargeable telephone cards&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Issue&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What are the tax invoice requirements where phone calls are made with a pre-paid telephone card that is considered to be a FVV (face value voucher) for GST purposes (for example, phone cards used for fixed pay phones)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Decision&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Commissioner will treat the receipt provided by the retailer for the purchase of a phone card as a tax invoice for the telephone calls that are made using that phone card. This decision applies only to pre-paid phone cards that are considered to be FVVs for GST purposes. The Commissioner will issue a formal determination under section&amp;nbsp;29-70 of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;A New Tax System (Goods and Services Tax) Act&amp;nbsp;1999&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The person using the phone card may need to substantiate that all telecommunication supplies:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;were taxable supplies to them (for example, not GST-free international mobile roaming supplies); and&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;were all creditable acquisitions;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;if they want to claim input tax credits based on 1/11th of the price of the phone card shown on any invoice or tax invoice covered by the determination.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Consultation--Business/In-detail/GST-issues-registers/Telecommunications-Industry-Liaison-Group---issues-register/?page=45" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Consultation--Business/In-detail/GST-issues-registers/Telecommunications-Industry-Liaison-Group---issues-register/?page=45&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:46:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cherry*135</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-09T12:46:43Z</dc:date>
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