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Counterfeit items...

jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:08:26 GMT

1923 Australian Halfpenny Coin (Low mintage - Rare)

The above is an example of a seemingly straightforward listing for a coin worth $1,500 plus.

Why have so many bidders cancelled their bids?

Simple answer;this coin is a 20 cent counterfeit.

How the bidders who cancelled found out item is fake I don't know.

Long gone are the days when members could warn others of fakes--what a shame.

Back to real footy where Essendon are leading my Pies.:-(

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:19:28 GMT

& long gone are the days when you could see who actually bidded or cancelled their bids and email them.

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:29:33 GMT

mebbe try posting this on the coin forum, and ask to see if any knowledgeable coinees.. how they can tell its a fake.. just by viewing the listing?

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:33:41 GMT

Coin/stamp forum is defunct.

believe or not joz I can pick a fake.

Ta for your input.

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:37:01 GMT

oh i thought you only knew it must be a fake coz of the cannelled bids

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:42:11 GMT

how can you tell its a fake John? it looks a bit on the orange color side to me.

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:15:43 GMT

You know more about cars than I do joz

and I probably know more specifically about OZ pre decimals.

In this case main giveaway is that the fake has curved base reverse side letters

whereas the real deal can only have flat base letters.

There are other giveaway signs as well.

I love American and English cars post war to about early seventies.

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purple_haize — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:22:10 GMT

That is interesting JJ......I come from the era of the halfpenny, and I looked at the coin and thought there was nothing wrong with it.

I like American cars too Joz........my first car was a 1962 pontiac..........I really loved that car.

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:24:07 GMT

That is interesting JJ......I come from the era of the halfpenny, and I looked at the coin and thought there was nothing wrong with it.

I like American cars too Joz........my first car was a 1962 pontiac..........I really loved that car.

Laurentian or Parisienne?

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:27:11 GMT

those bidders must have simply cancelled after realizing its a fake

have you reported it to ebay as the listing does give an impression that its genuine?

if not..whoever wins it, its really their problem

yeah gotta love those old cars, but eventually i will settle for a modern thing with all the safety features and toys.

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joz*garage — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:42:45 GMT

That is interesting JJ......I come from the era of the halfpenny, and I looked at the coin and thought there was nothing wrong with it.

I like American cars too Joz........my first car was a 1962 pontiac..........I really loved that car.

a mate has a small collection of ponti's, hes finished restoring one - a late 60s model pontiac super sport 2 door, beautiful thing, im so jealous:-D

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:43:19 GMT

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those bidders must have simply cancelled after realizing its a fake

have you reported it to ebay as the listing does give an impression that its genuine?

if not..whoever wins it, its really their problem

Reported for all its uselessness.

A Canadian bidder paid $10,000 about 5 years ago:-(

I don't know the final outcome of this case.

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purple_haize — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:16:21 GMT

a mate has a small collection of ponti's, hes finished restoring one - a late 60s model pontiac super sport 2 door, beautiful thing, im so jealous:-D

Joz........mine was a 4 door..........I would give anything to still have it.

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purple_haize — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:17:29 GMT

JJ, reporting these things gets you no where.

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:23:06 GMT

JJ, reporting these things gets you no where.

Sadly you are right.

Bidding is nearing $900:-(

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:29:06 GMT

Oh dear,

coin sold for $1,150 to a relative newbie:-(

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freddie*rooster — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:32:20 GMT

Lets hope they used paypal Jon

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jonnjenn — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:49:12 GMT

Hope so freddie,

I'll try to message them in due course to get an independent assessment

of authenticity.

I hope you and Mr.Freddie are recovering well.

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freddie*rooster — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:02:20 GMT

Hi Jon thanks, yes we are both travelling well ♥

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purple_haize — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:08:36 GMT

Gee, that is alot of $$$ for a fake, agree with freddie.......hope they paid with paypal.

I put that auction on my watch list, might keep it there and see what happens.