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France's Reckoning: Rich, Young Flee Welfare State

nero_bolt — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:54:07 GMT

France's Reckoning: Rich, Young Flee Welfare State

Socialisim and the welfare mentality at its finest...... wonder what will happen when they run out of other peoples money

France's day of reckoning has arrived: Its wealthy, best and brightest are saying goodbye to a nation they believe doesn't want them to succeed or become affluent.

A nation that was once great with a socialist president who says he doesnt like rich people.... What hope does it have....

http://www.cbn.com/tv/3254023064001#

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monman12 — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:33:37 GMT

If the pinkos can do it ( ) I will give it a little try.

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icyfroth — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:55:21 GMT

That's an excellent video, nero, thanks for posting.

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bella_again — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:08:39 GMT

Yeah I don't think you can even begin to compare France and the US. Obama care is about everyone being able to access basic health care no matter what their income. In the US minimum wage can be as low as 7.00 an hour so there is no comparison apart from the sensationalism from the reporters of that story.

What we need is balance for far too the long the rich have been greedy and it seems France may have gone the other extreme where workers are not working a full day but instead have the mentality that business should pay them regardless (equally as wrong). What they need to do is find a balance where the poor can be looked after properly and business can still make money.

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i-need-a-martini — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:03:11 GMT

Oh look. A Claytons news story about the French economy disguised under a rightwinged hatred for socialism.

It is a story about the backlash a Paris journalist AnneElizabeth Moutet (think a female version of Bolt) recieved when she wrote an unfactual story about French peoples supposed exodus from their country due to (apparently) the poor economy thanks to Marxism and a newly elected socialist government (of which she has always been critical).

Moutet seems to have forgotten that Frances economy is going strong compared to it's European neighbours and is still quite highly rated despite the GFC. But lets ignore that for now.

Moutet likes to make much of the Presidents dislike of wealthy people because his prelection policies which vowed to cut the tax exemptions the wealthy were enjoying. Fancy that! Imagine making wealthy people pay taxes!! Naughty socialist politicians...

Moutet also fails to mention that her agenda is similar to the one she has had for a number of years - to oppose the French territorial tax which has affected her personally because she works overseas so often.

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lightningdance — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:01:12 GMT

The EU and socialism is crippling France and the EU is destroying their sovereignty.

France has a massive illegal immigrant problem and no go areas are multiplying in the outer suburbs of Paris and other cities erupting in riots and killings.

The end of entitlement speech Joe Hockey made in UK has resonated around the world and many are looking to Australia to see how the welfare mentality that ballooned under Rudd and Gillard can be wound back

No country can afford to live above its means, soicialism is a cancer and has been proven to be a failed ideology, only murdering dictators and despots cling to it because that's how socialism works.

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lightningdance — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:38 GMT

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/immigrants_turn_paris_into_another_muslim_war_zone

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nero_bolt — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:35:24 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
That's an excellent video, nero, thanks for posting.

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Yes its a very good video and very true story but the socialist and left will hate it and deny its happening.....

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bella_again — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:37:09 GMT

I'd have to ask after watching that what the issue is? I don't give that particular video a whole lot of credibility because the woman has a hidden agenda but that's not to say there are no issues because more than likely there are.

So ending socialism to what? Capitalism? To the gap between rich and poor becoming so extreme that poverty dominates most of the world unless you are rich? They tell you to work harder, you work harder and it still comes to a pittance. Do we let people die because we don't want to fund medicare and its your hard luck if yo haven't got any money.

Should we then choose who should live and who should die? How far do we want to take it. The ending of the so called welfare mentality will mean that hundreds of thousands of people under 30 won't have money for 6 months to eat, clothe or put a roof over their heads. 800,000 unemployed to 140,000 jobs, math isn't my strong point but come on 760,000 people don't have a job to get, so what do we do with them. That is only one small example.

All while the fat cats vote themselves constant pay rises or defer them knowing at a later date they will live off the country in an extravagant lifestyle most people can't even begin to afford. So what is the answer?

As for a country not living beyond its means, there are a load of places government can make changes and cuts too that shouldn't even affect the poor. There are a handful of influential rich people who are pulling the governments strings. The government is catering to them. Now I agree business must make profits but these companies are making billion dollar profits without giving anything back. They have no social conscience.

So what do we want to future to look like? We don't have to be in debt if we want a fair system, it just needs fairer distribution. Do we want to care about society or do we want to have the attitude that everyone is in it for themselves. I know which I would prefer.

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nero_bolt — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:50:52 GMT

@bella_again wrote:
. Now I agree business must make profits but these companies are making billion dollar profits without giving anything back.
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Where do you think your super comes from? OHH thats right the dividends from successful companies making a good profit. Industry UNION super is one of the biggest investors in these companies... So where do these profits go? OOHH thats right, back to the workers as superannuation... Naughty union super funds shouldnt invest in these bad comanies....

Where do you think that self funded retirees make their living from? OHH thats right the dividends from successful companies making a good profit that they have invested in

Where do thousands and thousands (millions) of people make an income from employment come from? OHH thats right from successful well run companies making a good profit.

Yet profit is a dirty word in the socialist leftie world...

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lightningdance — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:48:07 GMT

The politics of "compassion" is dangerous and saw thousands of poor people dying at sea because of Labor.

Compassion is good if it can be used to uplift the poor from the low socio economic strata that they all aspire to leave, but levelling everybody to the lowest common denominator only causes poverty and anger, uprisings and looting like we saw happening in the UK.

Socialism is a failed ideology and using it to cause it's own people to flee their country reminds us of when many fled the iron fist of the iron curtain of socialism which gripped and crippled Europe for decades.

Murder and control (socialism) is something we never want to see or engender in the world ever again.

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boris1gary — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:51:31 GMT

oh and by the way, France is not a socialist country....hahahahahahahhhha soooooo funny though.

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bella_again — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 03:40:54 GMT

LOL Boris!! Sometimes I think there are those who would rather the poor sink because they were dumb enough to be born poor after all (my God what were they thinking???) and the rich succeed because they were lucky enough in most cases to be born on the right side of town having every opportunity available to them.

These are the people that would love it if our minimum wage was around the 2.00 mark becaue they can afford that with all their billions of dollars in profits.... God forbid they drop any. Like it or not we are a civillised society I am neither a righty or a lefty lol but I do beleive in human beings being treated equally.

There is a mentality that being sick, poor and disabled is the fault of the individual. It scares me that there some that would pass the sick and dying in the street and not get involved and not want to share social responsibility. How sad, I fear for the future of this country.

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lightningdance — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:43:47 GMT

Self satisfied,greedy,smug? isnt that who the diary thread is for?

Oh dear me soooooooooo funny

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nero_bolt — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:10:30 GMT

@monman12 wrote:
If the pinkos can do it ( ) I will give it a little try.

nɥºɾ

Thank you MM12. A thumbs up from you is a well received compliant in my books