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Is Beauty universal or not

the_bob_delusion — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 03:19:16 GMT

e.g. say Beethoven, Bach. Picasso

Is it just a matter of opinion what constitue as beauty? Is it a majority decides.

Is beauty universal? Is there an objective way of deciding beauty?

How do YOU decide what beauty is?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

imastawka — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 03:32:13 GMT

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

horizon1907 — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:33:19 GMT

Most certainly it's universal. People tell me all the time that I'm Beautiful. hahahahah. 🙂

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boris1gary — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:55:05 GMT

I don't know but i think all fascists are ugly on the inside which shows through and makes them ugly on the outside, does that help?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

icyfroth — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:06:43 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
I don't know but i think all fascists are ugly on the inside which shows through and makes them ugly on the outside, does that help?

you don't know about beauty but can comment on ugly?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

joz*garage — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:28:43 GMT

Not everybody will find Beethoven, Bach. 's music or Picasso's art beautiful

so in that context, no... beauty is not universal

there are individual tastes when it comes to that

i do believe there is universal beauty though, something that everybody finds beautiful

scenes in nature for example

who can not behold a beautiful sunset?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

boris1gary — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:39:49 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
I don't know but i think all fascists are ugly on the inside which shows through and makes them ugly on the outside, does that help?
you don't know about beauty but can comment on ugly?

and?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

icyfroth — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:56:24 GMT

@boris1gary wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:
I don't know but i think all fascists are ugly on the inside which shows through and makes them ugly on the outside, does that help?
you don't know about beauty but can comment on ugly?
and?

And what about beauty?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

annies_fancy_dress — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:22:04 GMT

Beauty is not universal.

There are as many ideas of what is beautiful as there are people on this planet.

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

icyfroth — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:23:04 GMT

@annies_fancy_dress wrote:
Beauty is not universal.
There are as many ideas of what is beautiful as there are people on this planet.

So it's global?

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:47:55 GMT

If I find something beautiful, it is beauty?

I dont know about it being universal.

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the_bob_delusion — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:33:22 GMT

@joz*garage wrote:
Not everybody will find Beethoven, Bach. 's music or Picasso's art beautiful
so in that context, no... beauty is not universal
there are individual tastes when it comes to that

i do believe there is universal beauty though, something that everybody finds beautiful
scenes in nature for example

who can not behold a beautiful sunset?

Sunset. I'm rather ambivalent about it.

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

the_bob_delusion — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:34:26 GMT

I do think the perception of beauty is ingrained in our DNA. Even babies can determine beauty before they're influenced by culture.

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imastawka — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:39:10 GMT

@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:
I do think the perception of beauty is ingrained in our DNA. Even babies can determine beauty before they're influenced by culture.

No they can't. Don't confuse 'pleasing' with 'beauty'

If it's not pleasant, a baby will let you know

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joz*garage — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:49:43 GMT

I do think the perception of beauty is ingrained in our DNA.

well if you put it that way

a deranged evil mind can find something of beauty

even with animals, if they didnt find the opposite sex attractive they wouldnt reproduce

Re: Is Beauty universal or not

tcmsecretuseid — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:57:11 GMT

Bob, I think Babies respond to symmetry. They also respond to black and white geometrical shapes. The brain need to develop, in order to take in complex images.

As we get older, humans often find beauty in things that are not symmetrical. So, that blows out the DNA baby theory. IMHO>

I think beauty is subjective, and differs not only from culture to culture, but also from one era to the next, as well as from each individual.

I went to the Los Angeles museum of art a few days ago. There was an impressionist display there(on tour). Van Gogh, Kandinsky, etc. I wouldn't hang a lot of those paintings on my own walls. We actually got into a discussion about WHO decides what is "great" art? We toured the rest of the museum, and saw quite an eclectic assortment of art pieces. Some I loved, some I actually hated.

While many of us might agree that a sunset, or sunrise is beautiful, others might just shrug and say, eh, I'd rather see the moon and stars.

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this-one-time-at-bandcamp — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:17:19 GMT

I've found that the barhogs take on a more ethereal quality the closer to closing time it gets......

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tcmsecretuseid — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:20:52 GMT

I find men less attractive after they have had a few, band. LOL!!!!

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colic2bullsgirlore — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:52:27 GMT

Okay baby boomers These five would know.......or at least have an opinion on the subject....... name them....

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tcmsecretuseid — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:14:05 GMT

I have no idea. So, I'm going to post their look-a-likes.;)

Brittany Murphy's grandma, Sophia Loren(the tall one), grown Shirley Temple(or Marie Osmond), Lucille Ball, Groucho Marks.:p