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Why can't cat owners keep their cat INSIDE?

i-need-a-martini — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 05:40:59 GMT

I am so over all the cats roaming through our backyard.

Not only does it mean our pet rabbit can't be outside in his own backyard or that I have to watch out where I put my hands when I am gardening because there is cat c*ap every where or that we get woken up at night because of cat fights.

But today I have spent the afternoon washing down with bleach all the entrances to my house, the perimetre walls and garden pots because the stench of their spraying is unbearable. They are even spraying the cars in the driveway.

And whilst I know that every cat owner on here will say they are responsible cat owners or that their cat is always inside or that they have cat runs so their cats never leave their property, I have yet to meet a cat owner in Sydney that has any of the above.

If you can't keep a cat on YOUR property then you have no business owning a cat in the first place.

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fourandsixpants — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 05:56:30 GMT

I take more offence to people that walk their dogs on leads and allow the pet to defeacate on my front lawns.

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i-need-a-martini — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:06:15 GMT

@paintsew007 wrote:
I take more offence to people that walk their dogs on leads and allow the pet to defeacate on my front lawns.

Why? That is against the law and there is usually a person at the other end of the lead that you can take it up with. Not to mention that the chances of that occurring night after night after night in the same spot is remote. And if it is really an issue then you can put a gate up that stops them from entering your property.

There is absolutely NOTHING I can do about nuisance cats. There is no way of tracking their owners. There is no way of keeping them out. There is no law that can be applied that will work.

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j*oono — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:14:26 GMT

I have a cat that has the run of the place and I don't have a cat enclosure or run.

She knows that home is the safest place to be as there are too many dogs in the area as well as guard dogs. A neighbour has told us that she is the only cat in the area that has survived to an old age. She did manage to train our own dogs though.

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flojoesbibliotheca — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:30:36 GMT

Sorry for your pain!

Cats that are fighting at night usually are the cats that aren't desexed.... Bad pet ownership...

My kitty does go outside, but stay's our property.

Just a warning, if you are cleaning down your house with bleach... cats find bleach to smell like cat pee, and will be attracted to it, then will pee there again to mark their territory...

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***super_nova*** — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:34:02 GMT

Why can't cat owners keep their cat INSIDE?

Maybe because it is cruel for cat to be locked in the house full time, and it is not easy to confine cat. In any case, be careful what you wish for 🙂

When i first moved into this house some 20 years ago there were cats everywhere, mainly entire toms who would spray on my front porch . Our council is pretty strict on cats roaming at night, and as over the years the cats were not being replaced we started to get mice and rats. I did not want another cat myself, but got to the stage that I was spending small fortune every week on rat baits, and I have very type of trap under the sun, and relented. At present my cat seems to be the only one around, and as she is getting on too, she only catches baby mice, and occasionally baby rat. Guess it helps but I wish other people would get cats too.

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Anonymous — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:37:42 GMT

~ because they're cats, and they want to roam. I think it's cruel keeping a cat inside 24/7. Ideally cats should have an outdoor enclosure they can run around in.

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the*scarlet*pimpernel — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:39:16 GMT

Flojoe beat me to it.

Washing with bleach is probably the worst thing you could have done. The cats will smell it as a challenge and try and out pee your mark.

Do you ever get to see these cats? a water pistol or hose on them might put them off. Or maybe one of those motion sensor alarms that barks like a dog.

I'm afraid my cat isn't always inside. If I try and keep her in she literally bounces of the walls and shreds the curtains and yowls until I give in and let her out. At one point she even started peeing in my bedroom as an act of vengeance. Horrible critter. I do have 10 acres though and my neighbours have dogs so I don't think she ventures very far.

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lionrose.7 — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:50:28 GMT

I have a cat that goes out during the day but I keep her in at night.

She comes back home every 20 minutes to check on me 🙂

The problem I have is with stupid people that walk their dogs with out leads.

I have had two big dogs in my lounge chasing the cat and I so sick of dog Poo on the foot paths or my lawn.

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daydream**believer — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:53:13 GMT

totally agree OP

Im sick of it as well

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karliandjacko — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:54:23 GMT

@i-need-a-martini wrote:
I am so over all the cats roaming through our backyard.

If you can't keep a cat on YOUR property then you have no business owning a cat in the first place.

That sounds like our neighbourhood.

They are driving me insane. one neighbour got kid a kitten for birthday and it sleeps (or roams) outside all night.

When I get home from work there could be anything from 2 -5 cats that scatter when I pull into the driveway.

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*pepe — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:59:35 GMT

if people aren't prepared to keep their cat at home where it beongs then they shouldn't get one.

some think its cruel to keep a cat inside - i think its irresponsible to let a cat wander where it could be run over or mauled by a dog or even injured by someone who is fed up with other people's cats pooping in their yard.

when I look after the hairball he is mostly inside, with supervised outings, he is MY responsibility.

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siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:12:58 GMT

@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@paintsew007 wrote:
I take more offence to people that walk their dogs on leads and allow the pet to defeacate on my front lawns.
Why? That is against the law and there is usually a person at the other end of the lead that you can take it up with. Not to mention that the chances of that occurring night after night after night in the same spot is remote. And if it is really an issue then you can put a gate up that stops them from entering your property.

There is absolutely NOTHING I can do about nuisance cats. There is no way of tracking their owners. There is no way of keeping them out. There is no law that can be applied that will work.

I think you will find that to be incorrect.

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bella_again — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:14:08 GMT

Yes its a big problem here that's for sure. You may remember my troubles with the cat hoarder down the road and the thousands of dollars damage to my new car. Absolute nightmare that ended up costing me a fortune because I had to rehouse her cat which went to her friend who forgot to sign the paper work for the register (micro chip) was transferred to me.She took the cat back and traded it for two kittens.... Me accused of faking the paper work, police involved because she threatened us night mare plus. Then I save the bl**dy cat from the pound, get its vet work done and rehouse it costing me a small fortune that I didn't really have. Ranger did stuff all about it. So left to fend for myself, she still has 19 odd cats and breeding season will be upon us again soon.

Now I sprinkle cayenne pepper and purchase scatter sprinkle stuff from the hardware. it's cost me a small fortune there too. What I don't understand is why everyone defends the flippin cat hoarders and blames others for having to take drastic action. I think that in order to obtain registration for a cat you should have to prove you keep it inside or in a cat enclosure.

I have three cats btw, that are inside cats, they are far healthier than any of the outside counterparts I've seen and its never been an issue. It's high time people take responsibility for their animals and I think councils need to get tougher on hoarders its not fair the rest of us have to put up with irresponsible pet owners.... vent over lol!!

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***super_nova*** — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:21:03 GMT

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Not only does it mean our pet rabbit can't be outside in his own backyard or that I have to watch out where I put my hands when I am gardening because there is cat c*ap every where or that we get woken up at night because of cat fights.

But today I have spent the afternoon washing down with bleach all the entrances to my house, the perimetre walls and garden pots because the stench of their spraying is unbearable. They are even spraying the cars in the driveway.

Is it against the law to allow cat out at night? It is here. There is always the possibility that the cats that are being nuisance are strays. If they are spraying they are entire males. You should report it to the council and they will set traps in the area and remove them. If there is a stray, not desexed cat population, they will have kittens soon and the problem will be getting worse and worse.

As far as washing cat pee with bleach goes; it is NOT true that cats will be attracted to it.

Bleach does neutralise urine smell. Such product as the DOMESTIC or DOMESTOS are great. What is not recommended is to use anything with ammonia, which is also in urine and therefor will only make the smell of urine worse.

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icyfroth — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:30:31 GMT

you should use vinegar to wash down the cat smell, martini.

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i-need-a-martini — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:36:13 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
~ because they're cats, and they want to roam. I think it's cruel keeping a cat inside 24/7. Ideally cats should have an outdoor enclosure they can run around in.

If you can't keep a cat inside or control them outside via an enclosure then don't get a cat. End of story.

It is completely irresponsible to let your cat terrorise other animals (and of course if you are near the bush which houses native animals then it is morally reprehensible) or allow them to roam in other people's property.

And there is no comparison with the odd stray dog that makes it into your front lawn. The odd stray dog isn't going to bother jumping a fence to get into your back yard. Plus a pile of dog doo is NOTHING compared to having the entire property sprayed with the sickening stench of cat pee.

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i-need-a-martini — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:36:48 GMT

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@paintsew007 wrote:
I take more offence to people that walk their dogs on leads and allow the pet to defeacate on my front lawns.
Why? That is against the law and there is usually a person at the other end of the lead that you can take it up with. Not to mention that the chances of that occurring night after night after night in the same spot is remote. And if it is really an issue then you can put a gate up that stops them from entering your property.

There is absolutely NOTHING I can do about nuisance cats. There is no way of tracking their owners. There is no way of keeping them out. There is no law that can be applied that will work.
I think you will find that to be incorrect.

What is incorrect?

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i-need-a-martini — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:39:45 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
you should use vinegar to wash down the cat smell, martini.

I have tried vinegar. It didn't work.

last year I used bleach (mainly to get it clean) and it seemed to do the trick while the smell was still around.

I am hoping to get a week or 2 of no cat pee from todays effort. Fingers crossed.

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bella_again — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:41:37 GMT

And just a little light heartedness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbkLjjlMV8

Of course I wouldn't recommend actually doing that to any cat but its hilliarous towards the end once the contraption is up and running!