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Odds Shorten On Bill For PM

icyfroth — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:18:43 GMT

GOODBYE carbon tax, hello yet another round of reform for our financial system.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott finally, finally, got Clive and his PUPpets to back the axing of the stupidest and most pointlessly destructive tax in Australia’s history.

Only for Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to immediately announce his total unfitness to ever be PM, by promising there would be a carbon tax (in the form of an emissions trading scheme) under a government it would be the country’s misfortune for him to ever lead.

The PM made three big promises at the election. Axing the tax, stopping the boats and fixing the deficits. He’s now delivered on two of them, and it’s only the “unrepresentative swill” in the Senate — in former Labor PM Paul Keating’s pungent words — that’s stopping him on the third.

Well, actually Shorten is also playing his part and making an impressive play to claim the title of stupidest Opposition Leader in our history. Faced with the chance of having Gillard’s carbon tax yoke removed from around his neck, thanks to the PM, he’s instead put it straight back on.

And faced with the chance of having this PM take all the tough, vote-costing decisions, enabling a Shorten-led Opposition both to almost amble into office at the next election and inherit a budget in the black — just like Kevin Rudd did in 2007 ——Shorten’s said “no thanks”.

The only reason the Greens and Clive’s PUPpets have any power to stop the Budget is because Shorten’s Opposition won’t take the responsible path of letting the Abbott Government fix the mess created by the Rudd and Gillard governments of which Shorten was a prominent member.

Entire Article Here

Wonder who the ALP will trot out for the next election after they axe Bill?

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boris1gary — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:28:47 GMT

oh the herald sun, another Fiberal Newsletter - always wondered whats sillier, the paper or those that read and believe it?

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lightningdance — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:39:09 GMT

Oh Icyfroth , you know this is not what they want to hear or read. They thought bill would resurrect the failed party but we are also seeing the total collapse and the subterfuge of "reform" being trashed as Carr and Conroy muscle their way back into the next senate election.

The only reason these two failed MP's could ever be contemplated to be backed in is, Bill needs them.

Thanks bill, for all your wonderful work on reforming the desperate party, you are a shining light on how to perpetrate the failures of rudd and gillard that saw the party suffer the worst loss since 1930, something they just cannot think about, if they don't acknowledge it, it never happened.

A bit like the man standing on the stairs, he wasn't there, all that's there is defeat.

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kabarine — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:22:16 GMT

Looks like Ms Ice didnt like my post lol

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karliandjacko — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:36:28 GMT

What exactly are you attempting to say about Carr and Conroy?

I'm struggling to understand the point you're making.

Carr resigned and has been replaced by Senator O'Neill and Conroy is still a Senator.

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the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:43:29 GMT

Odds Shorten On Bill For PM

Icy,I suspect you are right, but is this what you actually meantt to say? In racing terms, if the odds against a horse shorten, it means the bookies believe its chances winning the race have increased.

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icyfroth — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:18:07 GMT

@kabarine wrote:

Looks like Ms Ice didnt like my post lol

What post was that kabarine? I didn't even see it, I've just come back from lunch.

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icyfroth — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:31:36 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Odds Shorten On Bill For PM

Icy,I suspect you are right, but is this what you actually meantt to say? In racing terms, if the odds against a horse shorten, it means the bookies believe its chances winning the race have increased.

Ok She-el wellI don't bet horses so I guess I got that bit wrong lol.

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cherry*135 — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:15:40 GMT

A bit wrong ... going by the title of this thread it looks as if you are happy the odds are on that Bill Shorten will be the next PM.

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icyfroth — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:26:33 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
A bit wrong ... going by the title of this thread it looks as if you are happy the odds are on that Bill Shorten will be the next PM.

Well looks can be deceiving, Am, as you'll find when you read the body of my post. And if you take the trouble to read my response to She-el again, you'll notice I said that I got THAT bit wrong. Not that I GOT IT A B IT wrong.

(capitals for emphasis, not to imply volume)

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lightningdance — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:10:29 GMT

If you are struggling to comprehend my post may I suggest you do your research before making an erroneous comment.

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lightningdance — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:14:59 GMT

lol icyfroth, a bit like responding to posts that dont concern her and making assumptions. A trait perhaps?

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li.vish — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:16:02 GMT

Hello, everyone. This discussion is getting a little heated. Could we please communicate with a more civil tone. Thanks!

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cherry*135 — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:46:24 GMT

Icy you got the title a lot wrong ( unless you ARE a Bill Shorten fan?) i choose not to read the blurb written in the Herald or wherever your link goes to.

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lightningdance — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:09:00 GMT

I think it was a clever play on words. icyfroth I dont see the need for pedantic perseverance but hey, some feel the need whilst others just see the funny side and move on.

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karliandjacko — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:43:53 GMT

@lightningdance wrote:
If you are struggling to comprehend my post may I suggest you do your research before making an erroneous comment.

Which erroneous comment?

Conroy is still a Senator and Carr is not, nothing erroneous there, is there.

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boris1gary — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:28:06 GMT

Bill For PM

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lightningdance — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:31:04 GMT

Oh oh... another petard? and still not correct...lol soooooo funny

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karliandjacko — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:36:30 GMT

@lightningdance wrote:
Oh oh... another petard? and still not correct...lol soooooo funny

So what is it then? Instead of laughing about the error how about clarifying what is wrong with the statemenht that Carr is not and Conroy is still a Senator.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain what is another petard as well.

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boris1gary — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:54:30 GMT

@lightningdance wrote:
lol icyfroth, a bit like responding to posts that dont concern her and making assumptions. A trait perhaps?

I think you will find that posters can respond to whoever and whenever they wish, it's a trait of cs. No perhaps about it.