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Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:28:59 GMT

All things Clive can be posted here

He is a BULLY of the worst kind.....

He will threaten and bully anyone that doesnt do what Clive wants.

Its looking more and more like he is a liar and a fraudster as well and the Chinese govt is after him over a lot of missing money.....

Clive likes to bully and threaten women as well....

Clive Palmer calls for clerk of Senate Rosemary Laing to resign

Billionaire politician Clive Palmer has called for the clerk of the Senate to resign unless she is able to maintain impartiality, following a staff email she wrote implying Mr Palmer was a bully.

A leaked internal email sent to Senate staff on Thursday, and obtained by Fairfax Media, reveals clerk of the Senate Rosemary Laing warned staff not to tolerate ''unacceptable behaviour'' and made reference to the ''conduct of a member of the House of Representatives''.

While the email does not directly name the MP, it was widely reported two weeks ago that there was an altercation between Dr Laing and Mr Palmer, the member for Fairfax, over amendments to the carbon tax repeal bill.

Mr Palmer, leader of the Palmer United Party, was annoyed that the clerk would not distribute amendments put up by one of his senators, Glenn Lazarus.

The clerk argued that the amendments were effectively a monetary bill and constitutionally could not originate in the Senate.

In her staff bulletin issued on Thursday, Dr Laing warned against what she described as workplace bullying.

''You all have the right to a safe workplace and that includes the right to step away from - and report - bullies, whatever their status,'' she wrote. ''None of you need have any contact with the member in question if you feel at all threatened or intimidated by him.''

Mr Palmer told Fairfax Media he did not raise his voice during the exchange and said he told the clerk: ''If you do not circulate this amendment by Senator Lazarus I will challenge [your] position in the High Court.''

But on Thursday Mr Palmer took that position further. ''Australian democracy is far more important than this issue. The clerk is supposed to be impartial; if she is not up to the job, resign,'' he said.

Fairfax Media approached Dr Laing's office for comment, but was told she is on leave. The deputy clerk of the Senate refused to comment on the matter.

In the email, Dr Laing also took a swipe at the behaviour of the press gallery over the past two weeks of Parliament, describing reports of the carbon tax repeal negotiations as ''unethical''.

''In all of my years here, I do not believe I have seen anything so unethical from the press as this … [including a] disgraceful episode of press gallery members eavesdropping on private negotiations in the corridors over the carbon tax repeal legislation and writing stories on that basis,'' she wrote.

Last week all the major parties and the crossbench in the Senate - except for the PUP and Motoring Enthusiast senator Ricky Muir - spoke in praise of the clerk.

President of the Senate Stephen Parry said: ''I have full confidence in the clerk of the Senate and her officers. All Senate staff serve the Senate in an entirely professional and impartial way and I reject any claims to the contrary.''

Re: Clive Palmer thread

icyfroth — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:44:36 GMT

"Buffoon" is a word that comes to mind whenever I hear of Clive Palmer.

Clive Palmer has been accused of "dishonest and fraudulent" involvement in the misappropriation of more than $12 million as his estranged business partner moves to tighten the noose on the mining magnate turned politician.

From Here

They should throw him in gaol like they did Pauline Hanson.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

fourandsixpants — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:31:32 GMT

A pot stirrer is JUST what Canberra needs

Re: Clive Palmer thread

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:09:08 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
"Buffoon" is a word that comes to mind whenever I hear of Clive Palmer.

Clive Palmer has been accused of "dishonest and fraudulent" involvement in the misappropriation of more than $12 million as his estranged business partner moves to tighten the noose on the mining magnate turned politician.

From Here

They should throw him in gaol like they did Pauline Hanson.

Will they be allowed to let him out again if he is found not guilty?

I agree the man is a buffoon, and I have often said on these bards that I suspect he is playing with money he doesn't really have and that his "empire" will eventually come cashing down around him: but putting him in gaol on suspicion that has not yet been proved in court would set a very dangerous precedent.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

icyfroth — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:17:50 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
"Buffoon" is a word that comes to mind whenever I hear of Clive Palmer.

Clive Palmer has been accused of "dishonest and fraudulent" involvement in the misappropriation of more than $12 million as his estranged business partner moves to tighten the noose on the mining magnate turned politician.

From Here

They should throw him in gaol like they did Pauline Hanson.
Will they be allowed to let him out again if he is found not guilty?

I agree the man is a buffoon, and I have often said on these bards that I suspect he is playing with money he doesn't really have and that his "empire" will eventually come cashing down around him: but putting him in gaol on suspicion that has not yet been proved in court would set a very dangerous precedent.

She-el, I'm talking about if they find him guilty.

Did they find Pauline Hanson guilty?

Re: Clive Palmer thread

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:14:55 GMT

Clives great......

Re: Clive Palmer thread

***super_nova*** — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:21:54 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I agree the man is a buffoon, and I have often said on these bards that I suspect he is playing with money he doesn't really have and that his "empire" will eventually come cashing down around him: but putting him in gaol on suspicion that has not yet been proved in court would set a very dangerous precedent.

That is what I used to think; actually I thought he was a harmless buffoon, but I am not so sure anymore. At least I have doubts about the "harmless".

Re: Clive Palmer thread

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:29:08 GMT

Did they find Pauline Hanson guilty?

Of course they did - how could she have been sent to gaol otherwise? The verdict was overturned on appeal.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

icyfroth — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:44:23 GMT

Of course.

Why would you think they would throw Clive Palmer into gaol without finding him guilty?

TGSE: "I agree the man is a buffoon, and I have often said on these boards that I suspect he is playing with money he doesn't really have and that his "empire" will eventually come cashing down around him: but putting him in gaol on suspicion that has not yet been proved in court would set a very dangerous precedent."

Re: Clive Palmer thread

fourandsixpants — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:52:05 GMT

Shame we cannot throw Joe Hockey into gaol for being an incompetent unqualified (no degree in economics) Treasurer and throw Tony Abbott in gaol for.......... a litany of unspeakable crimes.

.....then toss the keys away.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

lightningdance — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:59:15 GMT

@paintsew007 wrote:
Shame we cannot throw Joe Hockey into gaol for being an incompetent unqualified (no degree in economics) Treasurer and throw Tony Abbott in gaol for.......... a litany of unspeakable crimes.

and while you're at it lets jettison blabbermouth pleb and showbag short pants too......lol soooo funny

.....then toss the keys away.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:10:17 GMT

Why would you think they would throw Clive Palmer into gaol without finding him guilty?

Ummm..... Icy, I wasn't the one who said "I hope they throw him in gaol.

In fact I said exactly what you have quoted: putting him in gaol on suspicion that has not yet been proved in court would set a very dangerous precedent."

Re: Clive Palmer thread

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:15:44 GMT

And just for the record: If he is proven guilty then I must certainly hope they throw him in gaol. The evidence does seem pretty damning, but so far we have only heard the prosecution side. Until the defence have had their say I shalll reserve my judgement.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Thu, 07 Aug 2014 02:08:22 GMT

WEST Australian Supreme Court judge has launched an unusually blunt attack on Clive Palmer’s mining vehicle Mineralogy, describing its legal tactics as “unreasonable”, “absurd” and “a moveable feast” as he made a rare order for the company to pay indemnity costs.

In a scathing decision published today, Justice James Edelman ordered Mineralogy to pay the “not insignificant” costs of its estranged business partner, Chinese company Citic Pacific, over a legal claim it launched late last year but abandoned after just four months.

The so-called frustration claim was made as part of Mr Palmer’s wider legal battle with Citic Pacific over the $10 billion Sino Iron project in the Pilbara.

Justice Edelman agreed with Citic that its costs in defending the claim should be paid by Mr Palmer’s company on an indemnity basis, which means Citic can now claim almost all of the legal fees it incurred rather than the usual party costs.

The costs ruling — which is rarely made in the middle of legal proceedings — means Mineralogy will face a hefty bill for its decision to abandon its stance on how a royalty formula for Sino Iron should be calculated.

Justice Edelman said Citic’s lawyers had spent thousands of hours over four months working on Mineralogy’s frustration claim.

“Given the considerable difficulty, and the extreme importance of the frustration issues, coupled with the urgency professed by Mineralogy in moving this matter to a hearing, it is unsurprising that the Citic parties devoted vast time, energy and resources into investigating, researching, and responding to this claim over several months,” he said.

“Prior to Mineralogy abandoning its frustration claim in April 2014 the solicitors for the Citic parties spent 2,565 hours working on matters relating to the frustration claim.”

The judge also repeated his earlier criticism of the “absurdity” that Mineralogy’s application for its frustration claim could be tried within nine days of being pleaded, which he today described as unreasonable.

He also described Mineralogy’s numerous applications to amend its original statement of claim as “a moveable feast’, noting it had pleaded, amended or proposed changes to its pleading on eight occasions since March last year.

“Mineralogy’s numerous, and sometimes very significant, changes to its case have slowed these proceedings down dramatically,” he said.

“There will soon come a point, if it has not already been reached, when a line must be drawn so that the defendants [Citic] can be clear on the detail of the case which they have to answer.”

In his judgment, Justice Edelman also criticised the conduct of lawyers for both Mineralogy and Citic over the way the case had been prosecuted.

He said one side had alleged in correspondence that its opponents had breached their ethical professional obligations.

“The need for civility, from all participants in the legal process, is often forgotten today,” he said.

“I say nothing about the content of the allegation in this case, particularly in circumstances where neither the issue, nor the facts, nor all the correspondence, is before the court.

“It suffices to say that as a general matter an allegation of breach of professional obligations should never be made without very careful consideration.

“One reason for this is that in some circumstances the making such an allegation could itself amount to a breach of ethical obligations.

“More commonly, though, such allegations can be destructive of the relationships of respect that should exist in litigation, including the respect between opposing solicitors, all of whom are officers of the court.

“Other legal representatives in the course of practice, whether opposed or not, should always be treated with respect, dignity, and occasionally admiration.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/judge-slams-palmers-mineralogy-for-absurd-unreasonable-legal-tactics/story-e6frg9df-1227015469905A

Re: Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Thu, 07 Aug 2014 02:17:04 GMT

Poor Clive seems to be losing a few court cases of late.... More loses to come for Clive

Clive Palmer loses court battle with The Australian

SUNSHINE Coast Federal MP Clive Frederick Palmer has lost a court battle with Nationwide News and two of its most respected journalists who he claimed defamed him in a series of articles about his business interests.

Palmer claimed the articles, published in The Australian on June 17, June 18, July 9, July 11 and December 9, 2013, used certain words that had defamatory imputations.

The Hedley Thomas and Adam Shand written articles carried headlines such as "Palmer warns Chinese 1000 jobs threatened if cash does not come his way," "Palmer may forfeit port rights" and "Letter shows bitterness of Palmer's China rift".

The Brisbane Supreme Court heard that in one of the articles Palmer claimed he had been defamed because the way the article was written would lead an ordinary person to believe he lacked judgment, efficiency, capacity and competence to manage his company Mineralogy.

Palmer also claimed the article alluded to him being insolvent, that he had lied to the public and made false claims about his wealth and he lacked the capability, judgment and competence to make good operational decisions in the businesses of the companies he controlled.

In another article Palmer claimed words used in the article could mean he lacked the skill, capability, judgment or competence to ensure that a company of which he was in charge, Mineralogy, had the credentials and ability to operate the Port of Cape Preston.

In the final article Palmer claimed it was written to portray him as a cruel and hostile person who, out of intense animosity and extreme acrimony, was willing to put at risk billions of dollars of investment in Australia and had threatened to disrupt commercial and political relationships between Australia and China.

Justice David Boddice saw things differently saying none of the words was capable of conveying the defamatory imputations as claimed.

He ordered written submissions as to the costs, which Palmer is required to pay after losing the case, be finalised before August 7.

Re: Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 00:44:06 GMT

DEMOCRACY Clive Palmer style......

Clive Palmer of running a political party "with an executive of one" - himself

More like rampant NEPOTISM

CLIVE Palmer’s former state party leader Alex Douglas has accused the self-proclaimed billionaire of “cronyism” in an extraordinary attack in which he blasted the preselection of family and friends.

Dr Douglas, who resigned as the Palmer United Party’s Queensland leader on Monday, also accused Mr Palmer of running an “executive of one” and a “single-person roadshow”.

He says the party preselected - without his input - Mr Palmer’s son, brother-in-law, his “PUP Senator’s spouse” - which could well be a reference to Glenn Lazarus’s wife Tess - his electoral officer, his “Titanic director”, two of his nephews, his in-house solicitor, a staffer’s husband and another close family friend.

Mr Palmer allegedly also preselected his “former footballer/helper” and his cleaning contractor

Yep DEMOCRACY Clive Palmer style......

Re: Clive Palmer thread

fourandsixpants — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:02:34 GMT

...You seem to have left out the bit where Dr Douglas was previously a diehard but 'cheesed off' LNP gang member?

.....funny that, hey?!

Re: Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:39:52 GMT

More stupidity from Palmer and his pups....

Palmer MP calls for state split

The new Queensland leader of the Palmer United Party has called for north Queensland to become its own independent state, just one day after Alex Douglas resigned.

The sole remaining Palmer United Party MP in State Parliament, Carl Judge, was named as the leader of the party following Dr Douglas’ announcement.

Mr Judge said the party would take the policy to the next election, the Brisbane Times reported.

“The Palmer United Party believes there would be significant advantages to North Queensland’s self-government,” he said in a statement

Dividing the state would also remove Mr Palmer’s Townsville nickel refinery from the Queensland government’s scope of influence

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/palmer-mp-calls-for-state-split-20140812-1035uw.html#ixzz3AEggdnE5

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/palmer-mp-calls-for-state-split-20140812-1035uw.html

Re: Clive Palmer thread

fourandsixpants — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:47:28 GMT

Clive Palmer could never do as much damage to Australia and Australians as Abbot, Hockey, Truss, Abetz, Bishop, Pyne etc could

Re: Clive Palmer thread

nero_bolt — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:11:46 GMT

How much more money can this bully afford to lose?

ASIC tells Clive Palmer to end delays

THE corporate regulator is turning the screws on Clive Palmer after his Federal Court loss to owners over his Coolum resort and dinosaur park, which could end up costing him $30 million.

Mr Palmer, who is at war with the owners of villas at the Sunshine Coast resort, has been told the Australian Securities & Investments Commission wants no more delays and intends to proceed as soon as possible in a case shaping as an expensive disaster.

Lawyers’ correspondence, obtained by The Australian yesterday, shows Mr Palmer wants to delay his own appeal in the legal proceedings, after an adverse finding that would see the part-owners of villas at the resort paid out $65,000 each for their parcel.

The resources tycoon has appealed a Federal Court finding in favour of the villa owners two months ago that exposes him to being forced to pay as much as $30m to buy all of the owners out.