topic Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality? in Community Spirit

Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

icyfroth — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 06:40:18 GMT

If you think of the names that have created the biggest buzz in the media world in the past few years – blogger/journalist Glenn Greenwald, data guru Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, Julian Assange of Wikileaks, and now the increasingly popular lo-fi documentary makers at Vice News – they have one thing in common.

These are story-tellers for a digital age that come less from the tradition of straight, impartial news gathering and instead embrace a new style of journalism which favours transparency, strong analysis, opinion, a subjective standpoint, and at times, flat-out advocacy for one side of a debate.

But journalists must still tread with caution here. Transparency alone is not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Tom Kent of Associated Press has wisely warned against discarding impartiality as “easy roadkill in the rush to new journalism techniques”. Transparency must still be coupled with the hallmarks of solid journalism: checking facts, attributing accurately, uncovering new information, and exposing falsehoods.

Entire Article Here

I enjoy reading an opinion piece but I prefer my news unbiased.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

lightningdance — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 06:57:10 GMT

100% agree, I posted an article similar to this.

Its scary that mamia, crkkey,getup, matilda are driving opinion even if it is of the left, this type of media are no more than ideology driven.

I put the Project and Q&A in the same category.

Thanks for posting.

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:49:47 GMT

icy, you seem to have been hot on the trail of spelling/grammar/typo's this week. so I would like to help you find another one,

jjj JJ jJ Jj j jJ .................Journalism

Yes, journalism (mainstream media) does still require impartiality.

There is a place for independent blogs and newspapers as well. Be a bad world if opinions were suppressed that didn't suit the Government of the day.

One person might like to read Mamamia blog and New Matilda, another might want toread Bolt or Pickering... free choice.

Neither of these people has to read blogs.opinion pieces in indepedent news they don't approve of.

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 07:53:36 GMT

You quite often start threads based on opinion pieces, icy.

I can't open the link to the article. I have refreshed the screen but still get this. Could be just my problem.

The core node you are trying to access was not found, it may have been deleted. Please refresh your original page and try the operation again.

Return to my original page

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

karliandjacko — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 08:57:55 GMT

the link goes back to the boards, not to an external link.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

karliandjacko — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:11:51 GMT

I enjoy reading an opinion piece but I prefer my news unbiased.

Yes, I agree with that comment. News should not be biased. I find it annoying when news readers add their own adjectives to describe the event or person they're reporting about. There is a place for opinion in media reporting as well and I don't think that's on the news. The Project is a good example of opinions about the news. They have a laugh, invite comment from all sides of the debate and viewer comment which is what ,multi media is all about.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:28:14 GMT

Some people want this country to be like Burma (media under strict censorship and regulation).. no criticisms of the current Govt, shut down TV channels, newspapers etc that are seen as having a leftie bias.. how extreme.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

***super_nova*** — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:31:45 GMT

When watching news you should not be able to guess how the commentator votes. But journalists should be able to write opinion pieces provided they are within guidelines - like not promoting hatred etc.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

karliandjacko — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:34:04 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
Some people want this country to be like Burma (media under strict censorship and regulation).. no criticisms of the current Govt, shut down TV channels, newspapers etc that are seen as having a leftie bias.. how extreme.

I don't get all the whinging about the fictional leftie bias. Most of the time the ABC is not biased to any side. When people have done research on that issue it turns out there is no left or labor bias at all. I've seen people say QandA is left biased when the majority of guests are exLibs and IPA members. They sure as hell were not biased in Gillard's favour. In fact they just repeated the BS fed to them by Newscorpse most of the time.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:43:23 GMT

Yes, ridiculous. I guess with online blogs, social media etc, they just can't handle opposing opinions and want them shut down, which is not going to happen in a country like Australia.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

karliandjacko — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:47:46 GMT

A ;lot of the new news sites are the creations of journalists and are not biased for or against any side. They're just started by people who are frustrated and/or angry about he decline in the msm news standards.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:09:56 GMT

They're just started by people who are frustrated and/or angry about he decline in the msm news standards.

It is good that they have the opportunity to do that.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:49:17 GMT

I don't think there has ever been a "Golden Age" when journalism was completely unbiased and impartial.Newspapers have always - to some exrent - reflected the political bias of their owners. I did a journalism unit in my English course and as part of one exercise we were shown two accounts of a protest march in London, during the miners strike of 1984, which ended in a confrontation with the police and a few injuries on both sides

I can't now remember which papers the articles came from, but one was right wing and one was left wing (that was the purpose of the exercise) and though they both gave basically the same information they were so diametrically opposed to each other in tone that you would hardly have known they were covering the same event..

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:25:35 GMT

The Sydney Morning Herald claims to be INDEPENDENT. ALWAYS. ( thats not what some on here call it though ).

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

icyfroth — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:31:23 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
If you think of the names that have created the biggest buzz in the media world in the past few years – blogger/journalist Glenn Greenwald, data guru Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, Julian Assange of Wikileaks, and now the increasingly popular lo-fi documentary makers at Vice News – they have one thing in common.

These are story-tellers for a digital age that come less from the tradition of straight, impartial news gathering and instead embrace a new style of journalism which favours transparency, strong analysis, opinion, a subjective standpoint, and at times, flat-out advocacy for one side of a debate.

But journalists must still tread with caution here. Transparency alone is not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Tom Kent of Associated Press has wisely warned against discarding impartiality as “easy roadkill in the rush to new journalism techniques”. Transparency must still be coupled with the hallmarks of solid journalism: checking facts, attributing accurately, uncovering new information, and exposing falsehoods.

Entire Article Here

I enjoy reading an opinion piece but I prefer my news unbiased.

That link again sorry 'bout the other one don't know what happened there:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/05/does-journalism-still-require-impartiality?CMP=ema_632

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

icyfroth — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:34:13 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
icy, you seem to have been hot on the trail of spelling/grammar/typo's this week. so I would like to help you find another one,

jjj JJ jJ Jj j jJ .................Journalism

Yes, journalism (mainstream media) does still require impartiality.

There is a place for independent blogs and newspapers as well. Be a bad world if opinions were suppressed that didn't suit the Government of the day.

One person might like to read Mamamia blog and New Matilda, another might want toread Bolt or Pickering... free choice.
Neither of these people has to read blogs.opinion pieces in indepedent news they don't approve of.

Yes thank you Am. I did try to go back and correct, because I know your bias toward spelling and grammar mistakes. Sadly, as you know, once there's a mistake in the title, there's no saving it.

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

karliandjacko — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:38:13 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
icy, you seem to have been hot on the trail of spelling/grammar/typo's this week. so I would like to help you find another one,

jjj JJ jJ Jj j jJ .................Journalism

Yes, journalism (mainstream media) does still require impartiality.

There is a place for independent blogs and newspapers as well. Be a bad world if opinions were suppressed that didn't suit the Government of the day.

One person might like to read Mamamia blog and New Matilda, another might want toread Bolt or Pickering... free choice.
Neither of these people has to read blogs.opinion pieces in indepedent news they don't approve of.
Yes thank you Am. I did try to go back and correct, because I know your bias toward spelling and grammar mistakes. Sadly, as you know, once there's a mistake in the title, there's no saving it.

Then, as if by magic, it corrects itself to prove that statement wrong 😄

Re: Does Journalism Still Require Impartiality?

icyfroth — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 23:48:52 GMT

Pretty cool, the way it does that, isn't it? I wish it would change itself in the thread title as well.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

lightningdance — Sat, 06 Sep 2014 00:18:27 GMT

News readers editorialising is now rife when once the news was read and they kept their mouths shut about their bias.

It's vitally unimportant news is straight up, factual and not an opinion of the presenter, any talking head can do that. Channel 10 is the worst in that area. Bonji comes on and it's biased to the max..

What I notice in the midday ABC news when I am around to watch it is they have a news article then they bring in a "talking head" to push their agenda, sometimes this can go on as long as 12 minutes.

That's not news that social comment.

Re: Does jJournalism Still Require Impartiality?

cherry*135 — Sat, 06 Sep 2014 00:19:50 GMT

The Daily Telegraph publishes very little 'real' news, I have noticed that.