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Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

ufo_investigations — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:05:17 GMT

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

dwilke33 — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:08:44 GMT

Thank you for posting this. I hadn't seen or heard it yet.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

boris1gary — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 22:21:52 GMT

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/02/380829/israeli-war-orphaned-gaza-children/

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/02/380802/netanyahu-urges-delay-in-un-war-probe/

Netanyahu urges delay in probe of shelling UN facilities

The Israeli premier has urged the UN chief to delay a probe into Tel Aviv’s fatal shelling of UN facilities in the recent military onslaught against the besieged Gaza Strip.

In a meeting with Ban Ki-moon and other UN diplomats, Benjamin Netanyahu claimed that Tel Aviv had done everything to prevent civilian casualties in Gaza.

He said the UN should discard the inquiry board as the Israeli military police are already investigating the incidents.

But the UN chief said Israel had acted disproportionately in its 50-day onslaught on the Palestinian enclave.

Ban added that Tel Aviv violated the international law, since UN facilities are supposed to be immune from such attacks.

Israeli forces shelled seven UN-run facilities used as shelters for Gazans in its recent invasion of the coastal enclave.

Fatal Israeli military aggression orphaned children of Gaza

Children in the Gaza Strip are paying the price of the latest Israeli war on the coastal enclave, as many have been left orphaned by the brutal military aggression, Press TV reports.

The Israeli regime launched its war on Gaza on July 8 and later expanded its military campaign with a ground invasion of the Palestinian territory. Over 2,100 Palestinians, including 578 children and nearly 260 women, lost their lives in the attacks and some 11,000 were injured.

The orphaned children are now staying either in an orphanage or with their relatives.

The Israeli aggression on the Palestinian territory, where about half of the 1.8-million population are children under the age of 18, also left thousands of kids traumatized.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:24:19 GMT

Well just another typical warmongering speech full of rhetoric and victim status mentality. The audience seems a bit low, there seems to be alot of delgates missing from alot of countries, wonder why that is?

He says Iran has attacked 2 dozen countries in 5 continents since 2011. I'd like to know exactly which countries Iran has attacked and how?

And as for the applause from the audience when he is speaking about how awesome the IDF is, how moral they are, how much they regret every civilian casuality etc, etc It's enough to make one feel physically ill.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

softail-joanie — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:36:43 GMT

The UN Arms Trade Treaty that has been identified by observers as a flagrant threat to the second amendment and which Barack Obama is determined to sign has its roots in a 1961 State Department memorandum which explains how the United Nations will oversee "complete disarmament" of the American people under the ruse of preventing war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4 . . . . . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ef-GYmzBM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwr18bp3YXE . . . . . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UloYHBObeho .

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

boris1gary — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:38:37 GMT

netanyahu is a war criminal

Israel army vehicles enter Gaza, forces open fire

Israeli army vehicles have entered the southern Gaza Strip and soldiers have opened fire on Palestinian agricultural areas in a flagrant violation of a recent ceasefire agreement.

A dozen Israeli military vehicles entered Gaza from a gate east of the southern city of Khan Yunis on Wednesday, crossing some 200 meters into the Palestinian territory.

Israeli soldiers then fired shots on Palestinian farms. Witnesses say the assault, which occurred in the early morning, forced agricultural workers to leave their lands. No injuries have been reported so far.

Earlier this week, Israeli military forces shot and injured a Palestinian farmer in northern Gaza near a fence separating Israeli-occupied territories from the blockaded coastal enclave. An Israeli military spokesperson claimed the farmer had come too close to the border fence.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/02/380771/israeli-army-opens-fire-in-south-gaza/

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:53:34 GMT

Boris he is not the only one though. And I agree with him that the IDF do give fair warning for civilians to evacuate from areas that they are targeting. BUT where the heck are they meant to evacuate too exactly? A UN shelter that may very well be the next 'target'

It's leaders like him that are propagating the lie that "all muslims are terrorists" and that "democracy is sacrosanct" and "that the leaders of countries that we dont like are like cancers that need to be removed"

If you removed all the rhetoric from his speech there would be half an hour of silence and about 4 minutes of substance...

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

ufo_investigations — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:11:43 GMT

Netanyahu is the only Leader in history who instructed his army to make phone calls to their enemy to warn them, drop leaflets, set up medical tents to assist the wounded people from the enemy side and insisted they stop launching rockets at Israel from schools, hospitals, civilian areas etc to no avail. Israel did everything they possibly could to avoid casualties.

If you watch this video Netanyahu says that Hamas and ISIS come from the same poisoned tree branch. Hamas is ISIS and ISIS is Hamas. Same terrorist group that is in charge of Palestine.

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k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:34:41 GMT

I know UFO.

At the same time where are/were they suppossed to evacuate to? Palestinians dont have bomb shelters like Isrealis do. Every border in the place is blockaded, there is no freedom of movement in and out of Gaza. I think you are jaded if you believe that Isreal did "everything they could" to avoid casualities. And they will keep spinning the lie that Hamas uses "Human Shields" to protect their missiles whereas Isreal uses missiles to protect her citizens.

So because Netanyahu says that Hamas is Isis then it must be so? It's just wartime propaganda imo. From what I can gather from this speech is that what Isreal really wants is for all the surrounding countries in the middle east (that are either Islamic/Arabic or against Isreals policies) he wants them all disarmed. It's okay though for Isreal to have WMD's (and to use them indiscriminatley against a majority unarmed population) but if any other country has them, they are a threat and should be totally disarmed.

Double standards much?

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

goldenjet16 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:43:11 GMT

It's a fact the leader of ISIS was a member of Hamas.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

ufo_investigations — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:44:02 GMT

@secondhand-wonderland wrote:
I know UFO.

At the same time where are/were they suppossed to evacuate to? Palestinians dont have bomb shelters like Isrealis do. Every border in the place is blockaded, there is no freedom of movement in and out of Gaza. I think you are jaded if you believe that Isreal did "everything they could" to avoid casualities. And they will keep spinning the lie that Hamas uses "Human Shields" to protect their missiles whereas Isreal uses missiles to protect her citizens.

So because Netanyahu says that Hamas is Isis then it must be so? It's just wartime propaganda imo. From what I can gather from this speech is that what Isreal really wants is for all the surrounding countries in the middle east (that are either Islamic/Arabic or against Isreals policies) he wants them all disarmed. It's okay though for Isreal to have WMD's (and to use them indiscriminatley against a majority unarmed population) but if any other country has them, they are a threat and should be totally disarmed.

Double standards much?

Israel has a Parliament and they debate issues like we do, they are the only democratic country in the Middle East. All the other countries are either ruled by Royal families or dictators and you can't negotiate with that. Israel are not aggressors quite the contrary, they use force when they are attacked. Israel wants peace they are tired of war, they have no interest in any more fighting unless they are backed into a corner and have to defend.

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k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:15:12 GMT

They are not all Monarchies and dictators...Qatar, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are the only absolute Monarchies.

Isreal may not be aggressors but they are occupiers and alot of Isrealis are living in Illegal settlements built on Palestinian land. They may not be aggressors but the level of force they use is ALWAYS excessive . They may claim to be democratic but we all know they are nationalistic, religiously bias, racist and exclusivist...

IE; as a non Jew I could not move to Isreal to live. I'd be welcome for a holiday but to live there permanently...no chance...

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

goldenjet16 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 01:53:23 GMT

"IE; as a non Jew I could not move to Isreal to live. I'd be welcome for a holiday but to live there permanently...no chance..."

Well let's look at this..... Being a nation surrounded by mostly Muslims and also a horrific WWII where 6 million Jews died in the holocaust, I wonder how trusting they should be. You don't let a fox live in a hen house, jmo.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 02:58:51 GMT

Oh for goodness sake..... lucky that is just "your" opinion...

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

goldenjet16 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 03:06:10 GMT

Well I guess that's all you have.. .. "For goodness sake" . Ok , and you want a debate! it's like someone wanting to start a fire with no matches. Good night!

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 03:32:29 GMT

I did type a long winded argumentative style post to "debate" your "fox in the hen house" comment but I decided against posting it because from your posts I can tell you are a staunch supporter of Isreal and in your mind everything they do to the Palestinians is justified because of WWII. It's not up to me to tell you that you might like to double check your WWII death figures etc, because everyone who goes there these days is just labelled either a "nazi" or a "holocaust denier"

So if you think Isreals immigration policies are justified because they are surrounded by muslims and because alot of Jews suffered in WWII then I will just be wasting mine (and your) time debating the issue.

Because in the end according to your analogy all Jews in Isreal are hens and everyone else is just a fox trying to infiltrate the coup and kill all the hens while they are sleeping... Now do you see why I replied with "For goodness sake?"

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

***super_nova*** — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 03:47:02 GMT

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=694525737305220&set=vb.518947111529751&type=2&theater

This is how Israelis treat the Palestinians, and unless that stops, and unless they stop taking more and more land they will not have peace, and they do not deserve peace.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 04:05:36 GMT

I've seen that doco (Checkpoint) Super Nova, made by an Isreali by the name of Yoav Shamir. He has made another one too called "Defamation" both must see documentaries imo.

I agree with you, but cant see it stopping anytime soon 😞

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goldenjet16 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 04:21:18 GMT

No.... You missed my point, and I'm not a staunch supporter of Israel as you are of Palestine. I was just pointing out the Jews may not be so trusting of anyone. I never wrote what's going on between Israel and Palestine had anything to do with WWII. My point is because of their situation and past, may be the reason for their immigration policy that's all.

"Because in the end according to your analogy all Jews in Isreal are hens and everyone else is just a fox trying to infiltrate the coup and kill all the hens while they are sleeping... Now do you see why I replied with "For goodness sake?"

Wow.... Are you kidding me..... no your right!!! the Jews are friends with everyone in the Middle East. Unbelievable.... I'm done here.

Re: Benjamin Netanyahu - UN Speech 2014

k0llectable5 — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 05:17:53 GMT

goldenjet16 wrote:
No.... You missed my point, and I'm not a staunch supporter of Israel as you are of Palestine. I was just pointing out the Jews may not be so trusting of anyone. I never wrote what's going on between Israel and Palestine had anything to do with WWII. My point is because of their situation and past, may be the reason for their immigration policy that's all.

I sympathize with the innocent Palestinians (over half of whom are children under the age of 17) who have lived under a brutal blockade/occupation for decades. I'm sorry for mis quoting you.But I believe their immigration policy is more about keeping the demographic majority Jewish. How can they call themselves a Jewish state if Jews are a minority?

"Because in the end according to your analogy all Jews in Isreal are hens and everyone else is just a fox trying to infiltrate the coup and kill all the hens while they are sleeping... Now do you see why I replied with "For goodness sake?"

Wow.... Are you kidding me..... no your right!!! the Jews are friends with everyone in the Middle East. Unbelievable.... I'm done here.

Unless you have forgotten you are on an Australian board, I was speaking as an Australian. Not Muslim. Not Jewish just Australian. Now I'm quite sure that if an Isreali Jew wanted to immigrate here to Australia they would have little problems doing so, but if I as an Australian wanted to go and live in Isreal I wouldn't be welcome. More fine examples of the double standard...