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Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

icyfroth — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 04:09:59 GMT

The Pilliga is a vast expanse of bushland, located between Narrabri and Coonabarabran in western NSW. This iconic area of public land is under threat from the largest coal seam gas project ever proposed for New South Wales.

The vast forests of the Pilliga filter the waters that recharge our greatest inland water resource – some of the sweetest water that you will ever taste lies beneath the Pilliga sandstones in aquifers of the Great Artesian Basin.

Gas company Santos has plans for a gas project that would drill 1,100 coal seam gas wells, clear 1,000km of pipelines and spread out across 850 square kilometres of forest in the Pilliga. It would involve wells drilled on a massive grid, every 500m, as well as access tracks, pipelines, water treatment facilities and compression plants.

The project, if approved, will be linked by regional pipelines either to a new gas export facility at Newcastle or an existing export facility at Gladstone in Queensland.

Once these pipelines are in place, they will undoubtedly open up the entire north-west of NSW to rapid coal seam gas development.

Read more about the proposed coal seam gas project here.

The Impact, should it proceed:

Clearing of at least 2,400 hectares of bush and fragmentation of 850 square kilometres
Loss and fragmentation of habitat for up to 15 nationally threatened species and 48 species that are threatened in NSW.
Increased feral pest and predator invasion and spread of noxious weeds
Likely draw-down and contamination of groundwater systems, including the Great Artesian Basin
Potential pollution of surface water from saline water extracted from coal seams
Production of large quantities of concentrated brine as a waste product
Dramatically increased risk of catastrophic fire in a landscape that is already extremely fire prone

http://www.stoppilligacoalseamgas.com.au/

They'll lay waste to Australia then move out with not a care for the damage they've done.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

cherry*135 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 04:47:32 GMT

They'll lay waste to Australia then move out with not a care for the damage they've done.

Who is they?

Santos Gas Company? They are an Australian company.

With its origins in the Cooper Basin, Santos is one of Australia’s largest producers of gas to the domestic market and has the largest exploration and production acreage position in Australia of any company.

Santos has also developed major oil and liquids businesses in Australia and operates in all mainland Australian states and the Northern Territory.

Santos also has an exploration-led Asian portfolio, with a focus on three core countries: Indonesia, Vietnam and Papua New Guinea.

Was it OK for BHP to destroy the environment in, for example, parts of PNG, then move out? Because they are doing that out of Australia, that makes it OK?

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

icyfroth — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:12:15 GMT

Perhaps you could address the topic of the Pilliga being threatened by CSG mining, Am?

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

gleee58 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:29:40 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
Perhaps you could address the topic of the Pilliga being threatened by CSG mining, Am?

Well your hero Tones and his buddies are the ones pushing the CSG and associated destruction. At the moment he is busily trying to undo the water bill, introduced by Tony Windsor last year, so there is no impediment.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

the*scarlet*pimpernel — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:47:18 GMT

I don't even know wher eto start with this. It's so sad. And it's in my extended backyard. (there's a chinese owned coal mine going in my immediate backyard that should never have got past the application stage)

Already there have been toxic spills and contaminated bores as a result of coal seam gas in the Pilliga (it is spelled it wrong in the op). The company gets fined, but what's a few thousand dollars to them?, nothing. And that's all it was, a few thousand.

The extraction of energy resources in this part of the country is huge, and good ol Tones is ignoring the impact on environment and future agriculture in favour of the dollar.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

icyfroth — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:38:05 GMT

This really is a bigger problem than the great Australian liberal/labor divide.

As Australians we should be pulling together instead of bickering about party loyalties.

Our marches should be for our national interests.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

the*scarlet*pimpernel — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:44:26 GMT

I'm not trying to turn it political, but in the end it is the government that is allowing it.

It's just so wrong 😞

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

icyfroth — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:51:23 GMT

It's foul and we need to support those who are protesting against it.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

gleee58 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:03:55 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
This really is a bigger problem than the great Australian liberal/labor divide.

As Australians we should be pulling together instead of bickering about party loyalties.

Our marches should be for our national interests.

How is that possible when the PM and his mates in Gov don't care?

They are at the moment dismantling the water bill that was introduced just last year because they have an obsessive need to erase everything the previous govt enacted. They do not care about the aquifers or the farming community. They don't understand the national interest.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

gleee58 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:06:40 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
It's foul and we need to support those who are protesting against it.

Did you support the March in March or any of the other marches?

At some of those events people have been protesting against CSG exploration in their areas.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

icyfroth — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:12:51 GMT

So how did they get into government, glee?!

Through the sheer ineptitude of the previous goverment to establish a clear line of policy, that's how!

Infighting and corruption will dog the Labor party for quite a while.

While Mr Abbot will be an unpopular PM, it's dubious that any Labor government will do any better. This is the conundrum that the Australian voting public faces.

Time to get off the Labor/Liberal merry-go-round!

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

gleee58 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:20:20 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
So how did they get into government, glee?!

Through the sheer ineptitude of the previous goverment to establish a clear line of policy, that's how!
Infighting and corruption will dog the Labor party for quite a while.

While Mr Abbot will be an unpopular PM, it's dubious that any Labor government will do any better. This is the conundrum that the Australian voting public faces.

Time to get off the Labor/Liberal merry-go-round!

They got into government because most of the media outlets mislead the public about the previous government and their policies more than anything. They got into government by telling lies, slandering the opposition and behaving badly for 3 years.

Time to get off the Lib/Lab merry-go-round? We did start to get off it by electing a minority government and look how that went. The Libs whinged and sooked for 3 years claiming that they'd been robbed. That the minority had no right ot govern.

Now you complain. We had the chance and got suckered in by a bunch of liars.

Re: Stop Pilliaga Coal Seam Gas!

debra9275 — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:42:32 GMT

Sorry to hear that Pimpy, it must cause lots if stress for your family. There was a report done on " fracking" in Vic a couple of years ago. I hope it never happens