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Well Well Well, one rule for some, different for others.

azureline** — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:27:13 GMT

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/kalynda-davis-home-22-year-old-allowed-to-leave-china-after-drug-allegations-are-dropped/story-fni0cx4q-1227149930356

I wonder, is it different if your dad is a policeman?

Ms Bishop has done a good job here. I wonder why the parents of other drug traffickers, who said it wasn't their drugs, didn't get the same help?

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daydream**believer — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:30:16 GMT

But she may actually be innocent?

Although i do wonder what kind of an idiot goes travelling with a guy they met on a dating app

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azureline** — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:33:52 GMT

She may well be innocent, however, the drugs were in "their" luggage.

The other Australians in foreign prisons may also have been innocent. We will never know.

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wilk1149 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:34:50 GMT

First time I've ever seen the government step in and rescue someone accused of any crime. Yet Peter Gresta is still in gaol for not committing any crime. Just a blatant display of what your tax dollars can get if you have the right friends

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aps1080 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:43:13 GMT

The Government steps in all the time.

The difference is the Gov't has stated that they will do what they normally do BUT it is not a free service embassy / consular staff are required because of your own actions / stupidity. ie a bill comes with it.

This is because so many idiots get into trouble OS.

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j*oono — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:44:14 GMT

I don't really care, I'm just glad she's home.

I do think that the government should have done everything humanly possible to get those journalists released though.

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aps1080 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:51:31 GMT

At lot more goes on behind the scenes than they let on, for obvious reasons.

As much as we don't agree with some "judicial processes" in other countries, we can't just willy nilly stick our nose in

and demand the release of someone. It would set a dangerous precendant.

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bushies.girl — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:48:32 GMT

Totally Agree

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polksaladallie — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:50:17 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
I don't really care, I'm just glad she's home.

I do think that the government should have done everything humanly possible to get those journalists released though.

Perhaps the journalists should have worked for a different company.

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wilk1149 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:50:44 GMT

No worries asp. You obviously know so much more than me on everything so TTFN. Bit confused as to why you post in here when your obviously busy with every secret of the government and the in and outs if anything else. You must the the worlds most fantastic person. Sorry for my obvious meagerness

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aps1080 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:55:44 GMT

No, not at all.

The Gov't often says when being questioned about things OS, we are doing XYZ but dont want to say any more.

Read a few books in the last 30 years, you pick up bits of info on how things work behind the scenes.

The person I was referring to in the other thread was in a US Gov't Military organsation that used to be involved in all of those activities.

Would kind of knows what goes on.

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cmcoins2000 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:05:32 GMT

@wilk1149 wrote:
First time I've ever seen the government step in and rescue someone accused of any crime. Yet Peter Gresta is still in gaol for not committing any crime. Just a blatant display of what your tax dollars can get if you have the right friends

They are probably helping make eBay Rules & Policies also.

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bushies.girl — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:08:06 GMT

How do people "know" what the government does or doesn't do to try to help? Do they ph you up and tell you?

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aps1080 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:08:24 GMT

wilk

I suppose you think Corby is innocent and the Gov't should have gone in and got her

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***super_nova*** — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:12:43 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
I don't really care, I'm just glad she's home.

Why? What if she is guilty?

@j*oono wrote:

I do think that the government should have done everything humanly possible to get those journalists released though.

Our government cannot interfere in other coutry's legal process, does not matter how unfair it may be.

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cmcoins2000 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:15:18 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
I don't really care, I'm just glad she's home.

I do think that the government should have done everything humanly possible to get those journalists released though.

Bit of an oxymoron there joono.

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aps1080 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:20:12 GMT

bushies

They (as in consular officials) visit you in jail. That's how you know.

You often hear people say "the Gov't should do more". They are NOT there to hall your ass out and cover legal costs or represent you legally. They assist where they can but it is not a free and neer ending service.

The Govt will in certain circumstances evacuate citizens by air or sea if required, normally in bulk. Bali being an example.

The british did it in Libya by air and seas including some dangerous missions where they flew in without premission,

landed in the desert and flew out. Mission of last resort type of stuff.

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cmcoins2000 — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:19:07 GMT

@aps1080 wrote:

No, not at all.

The Gov't often says when being questioned about things OS, we are doing XYZ but dont want to say any more.

Read a few books in the last 30 years, you pick up bits of info on how things work behind the scenes.

The person I was referring to in the other thread was in a US Gov't Military organsation that used to be involved in all of those activities.
Would kind of knows what goes on.

Forgive a senior here - but so far I don't get TTFN & XYZ.

My day there were more vowels.

Might as well be Icelandic.

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azureline** — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:19:50 GMT

so............... why did Ms Bishop step in this time?

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amber-eyed-girl — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:23:08 GMT

@daydream**believer wrote:
But she may actually be innocent?

Although i do wonder what kind of an idiot goes travelling with a guy they met on a dating app

Innocent until proven guilty. Totally agree with the second sentence.

If she received special treatment due to any connections, that would be outrageous. But any Australian in difficulties abroad can ask for help.