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Labor Leader John Robertson Acted On Behalf Of Siege Gunman

icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:46:23 GMT

New South Wales Opposition Leader John Robertson sent a letter on behalf of the Lindt cafe gunman to a government department over a family custody matter, it has emerged.

The gunman was on bail for being an accessory to the murder of his former wife, Noleen Hayson Pal, at the time and was under investigation for writing hate letters to the widows of soldiers killed in the Afghanistan conflict.

"Man Monis was a resident in the Blacktown electorate and his request was forwarded in a routine manner to the Department of Family and Community Services," he said.

"The letter included all relevant information, including that he was subject to an AVO and there were ongoing family court proceedings."

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You'd think his staff would have done a check on Man Monis first, before they drafted the letter for Mr Robertson to sign, wouldn't you? A quick google check would have done it. Sheesh.

The Labor leader also wrote to Roads Minister Duncan Gay in 2012 asking to him to reduce licence restrictions for Ewing Filipo, a reported bikie gang member.

And admitted to being offered a $3m bribe in 2007 but not reporting it to police.

Very poor judgement there, Mr Robertson.

Hope you have a Merry Christmas anyway.

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outdoorhunting1 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:48:02 GMT

Soon to be Ex leader !

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cherry*135 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:52:34 GMT

Yeah, read that this morning.. Reminds me of letters/emails Barry Spurr wrote... Poor judgement as you say.

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gleee58 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:17:34 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
Yeah, read that this morning.. Reminds me of letters/emails BarrySpurr wrote... Poor judgement as you say.

Yes, it is. A bit like abbott turning up to give a personal character reference for a child abusing priest. Poor judgement occasionally, must be a human flaw.

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***super_nova*** — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:23:04 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

"Man Monis was a resident in the Blacktown electorate and his request was forwarded in a routine manner to the Department of Family and Community Services," he said.
"The letter included all relevant information, including that he was subject to an AVO and there were ongoing family court proceedings."

What else did he supposed to do? When somebody from your electorate to comes for help, you try to help.

@icyfroth wrote:

You'd think his staff would have done a check on Man Monis first, before they drafted the letter for Mr Robertson to sign, wouldn't you?

Obviously they did, and ALL info was included; it was not up to them to make decisions; that is a job of the Department of Family and Community Services.

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icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:46:56 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:

"Man Monis was a resident in the Blacktown electorate and his request was forwarded in a routine manner to the Department of Family and Community Services," he said.
"The letter included all relevant information, including that he was subject to an AVO and there were ongoing family court proceedings."

What else did he supposed to do? When somebody from your electorate to comes for help, you try to help.

@icyfroth wrote:

You'd think his staff would have done a check on Man Monis first, before they drafted the letter for Mr Robertson to sign, wouldn't you?
Obviously they did, and ALL info was included; it was not up to them to make decisions; that is a job of the Department of Family and Community Services.

Well they didn't do a very good job did, they? It's a career-breaker for their boss.

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village_person — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:53:33 GMT

I feel sorry for Robertson's staff. Tech-savvy young guns who were unaware of a modern day sensation known as Google. And not one guy or gal in Robertson's office piped up and said 'slow down, I remember this guy was recently in trouble over a letter writing campaign'.

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icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:56:46 GMT

@village_person wrote:
I feel sorry for Robertson's staff. Tech-savvy young guns who were unaware of a modern day sensation known as Google. And not one guy or gal in Robertson's office piped up and said 'slow down, I remember this guy was recently in trouble over a letter writing campaign'.

They may have felt pressured by Monis not to be labelled racists and bigots.

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***super_nova*** — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:59:00 GMT

@village_person wrote:
I feel sorry for Robertson's staff. Tech-savvy young guns who were unaware of a modern day sensation known as Google. And not one guy or gal in Robertson's office piped up and said 'slow down, I remember this guy was recently in trouble over a letter writing campaign'.

Are you suggesting that our departments should be making decision on basis what is on Internet? OMG! What did the letters, which were very inappropriate, but basically against the war we were involved in, have to do with this man's custody case?

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icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:07:56 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
@village_person wrote:
I feel sorry for Robertson's staff. Tech-savvy young guns who were unaware of a modern day sensation known as Google. And not one guy or gal in Robertson's office piped up and said 'slow down, I remember this guy was recently in trouble over a letter writing campaign'.
Are you suggesting that our departments should be making decision on basis what is on Internet? OMG! What did the letters, which were very inappropriate, but basically against the war we were involved in, have to do with this man's custody case?

What! They don't use the internet to do character checks on ppl they write reccommendations for? How do you think DOCs rejected it?

Would you write a letter of reccommendation for someone you didn't know from a bar of soap?

No? Then why would the Opposition Leader?

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village_person — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:08:32 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
@village_person wrote:
I feel sorry for Robertson's staff. Tech-savvy young guns who were unaware of a modern day sensation known as Google. And not one guy or gal in Robertson's office piped up and said 'slow down, I remember this guy was recently in trouble over a letter writing campaign'.
What did the letters, which were very inappropriate, but basically against the war we were involved in, have to do with this man's custody case?

I'll take a punt and say it might indicate "character". It might indicate that Monis was unhinged. A caution flag might have gone up.

I take it you'd be happy to see any of our alleged pollies write a character reference for Dolly Dunn to open a child minding centre.

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polksaladallie — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:14:02 GMT

@village_person wrote:

I'll take a punt and say it might indicate "character". It might indicate that Monis was unhinged. A caution flag might have gone up.
I take it you'd be happy to see any of our alleged pollies write a character reference for Dolly Dunn to open a child minding centre.

Funny you should say that.

Court transcript of Tony Abbott giving a character reference for an alleged paedophile priest, who was later forcefully laicized by the Vatican.

https://www.facebook.com/StopTryingToPullTheWoolOverEyesWeAintAllStupid/posts/602134606495422

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village_person — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:22:32 GMT

@polksaladallie wrote:
@village_person wrote:

I'll take a punt and say it might indicate "character". It might indicate that Monis was unhinged. A caution flag might have gone up.
I take it you'd be happy to see any of our alleged pollies write a character reference for Dolly Dunn to open a child minding centre.
Funny you should say that.

Court transcript of Tony Abbott giving a character reference for an alleged paedophile priest, who was later forcefully laicized by the Vatican.

https://www.facebook.com/StopTryingToPullTheWoolOverEyesWeAintAllStupid/posts/602134606495422

And he deserves a boot up the freckle for doing that. It is just as bad as Bob the Builder being photographed back-slapping and socialising with Phuong Canh Ngo, the man who organised our first political assassination or Bob Hawke having cuppa with sheik hilaly the uncovered cat's meat buffoon.

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icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:27:36 GMT

@village_person wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:
@village_person wrote:

I'll take a punt and say it might indicate "character". It might indicate that Monis was unhinged. A caution flag might have gone up.
I take it you'd be happy to see any of our alleged pollies write a character reference for Dolly Dunn to open a child minding centre.
Funny you should say that.

Court transcript of Tony Abbott giving a character reference for an alleged paedophile priest, who was later forcefully laicized by the Vatican.

https://www.facebook.com/StopTryingToPullTheWoolOverEyesWeAintAllStupid/posts/602134606495422
And he deserves a boot up the freckle for doing that. It is just as bad as Bob the Builder being photographed back-slapping and socialising with Phuong Canh Ngo, the man who organised our first political assassination or Bob Hawke having cuppa with sheik hilaly the uncovered cat's meat buffoon.

To err is human. Ask gleee.

@gleee58 wrote:
Yes, it is. A bit like abbott turning up to give a personal character reference for a child abusing priest. Poor judgement occasionally, must be a human flaw.

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idlewhile — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:58:41 GMT

Apparently he's been caught before.

Another union heavy gone but not forever it seems.

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icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 06:03:40 GMT

John Robertson announcement: NSW Opposition Leader resigns

He announced the decision, just three months before the state election, at NSW Labor’s Sussex Street headquarters on Tuesday afternoon.

It comes after revelations that Mr Robertson signed a letter for Lindt cafe gunman Man Haron Monis in 2011 - two years after the extremist was charged with sending offensive letters to the families of slain diggers

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