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Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

nero_bolt — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:00:25 GMT

Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

SCOTT Morrison’s promotion to an overarching Social Services portfolio is more than a cabinet reshuffle. It marks the beginning of the economic participation era.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott is daring to do what few before him had the guts to do and launch a wave of welfare reform. An era where Australians are told they have to “have a go.”

Where those who can work, must work.

Where all Australians assist in building the economy and fewer taxes are used to prop up those who don’t want to work.

This cultural shift will take some doing. The notion of a hard day’s work is an especially foreign concept for some on the far left.

Greens leader Christine Milne and her partner in sloth Sarah Hanson-Young yesterday screamed from the rooftops at the prospect of Morrison being sent in to clean up the welfare and childcare sectors.

“Putting Scott Morrison in charge of social services will send shivers down the spines of people across the country,” Senator Milne said. (GOOD I HOPE IT DOES)

Truth is, if you genuinely require welfare you have nothing to worry about.

The government is not going to kick the permanently disabled and those who physically cannot work off benefits.

As the Prime Minister said himself: “Government policy should always be designed to protect the vulnerable.’’

It can no longer be ignored that welfare is stifling the development of the Australian economy. We will spend $146 billion on welfare this financial year. That accounts for 35 per cent of Australia’s entire budget expenditure.

The Disability Support Pension alone costs $16 billion a year with more than 800,000 people claiming up to $800 a fortnight on the scheme. Government modelling shows Australia is on track to have more than one million people claiming the DSP within a few years.

More than 2000 people per week apply for the DSP. There is no way in the world there are 2000 people every single week who suddenly become unable to work.

The era of economic participation has been coming since July 1.

Previous Minister Kevin Andrews began a review of all DSP recipients aged below 35 with 8000 subsequently sent to employment services to find a job.

Earlier this month, the government announced all new DSP applicants would have to see Commonwealth appointed doctors to apply for the DSP — ending the practice of “doctor shopping” to find signature-happy medicos to sign off on welfare claims.

But that is only the beginning.

The Prime Minister’s pet Paid Parental Leave Scheme has to be revised and passed by the senate, childcare reforms are needed and rising the pension age to 67 and the indexation changes to the pension need to be executed.

Plans to ensure young people spend six months looking for a job before they can go on welfare to prevent a wave of “beach bums” need to be negotiated with the senate.

These are not draconian measures.

He might not be the most popular minister but his record is outstanding.

They are sensible moves to ease the welfare drain on Australia’s economy.

Morrison is the government’s best minister.

He might not be the most popular minister but his record is outstanding.

The Labor Party said it was impossible to stop the boats. Under their watch more than 50,000 illegal boat people arrived in Australia and more than 1200 people died at sea.

Morrison stopped the boats in less than a year.

He negotiated the reintroduction of Temporary Protection Visas through the senate which was arguably the most controversial legislation passed this year.

Truth be told, Morrison been left to twiddle his thumbs in Immigration because what should have taken a term to achieve he has sorted out immediately.

Sarah Hanson-Young refers to Morrison as a sociopath.

Hanson-Young is, as usual, deeply misguided.

Scott Morrison and his wife Jenny had spent 14 years of trying to have a child, which included multiple failed IVF attempts, before two miracle daughters were conceived naturally.

Morrison is very much a family man.

There will be some head kicking in the New Year and there will be some tough decisions.

This Christmas though, he will spend getting across every aspect of his new super portfolio. Attention to detail is a strong point.

There will be some head kicking in the New Year and there will be some tough decisions. But most importantly there will be a move for a more sustainable Australia.

One where welfare is a last resort, rather than a preferred option.

If the Abbott government can deliver an era of economic participation, with more people working and fewer on welfare, it will be a victory for every Australian taxpayer.

And that’s a good result for everyone.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/scott-morrisons-right-on-the-money-for-welfare-writes-daniel-meers/story-fni0cwl5-1227164524323

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

outdoorhunting1 — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:04:23 GMT

"The Labor Party said it was impossible to stop the boats. Under their watch more than 50,000 illegal boat people arrived in Australia and more than 1200 people died at sea."

In other countries they call that Government sponsored Genocide.

Here it is called Labor party policy. supportd by the Greens !

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

alexander*beetle — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:07:03 GMT

The notion of a hard day’s work is an especially foreign concept for some on the far left.

And of course this doesn't apply to absolutely no-one who votes Liberal.

This article is the sort of thing that was to be expected by the headkickers. Of course there are people who rort the system. But they are in the minority. Just like there are people who fudge their taxes and corporates who minimise their salaries. But we don't accuse everyone of doing it. However, if you are on some form of welfare then you are easy game to be demonsied.

Someone on a high wage can minimise their salary and not pay their required tax. Someone taking cash for work done and not declaring it can minimise their tax. Someone with a corporation can minimise their tax. And some of these people neglect to pay in a week what someone on welfare gets in a fortnight. But that's not seen as rorting the system.

Getting on disability is apparantly very hard and I'm not saying that absolutely everyone is legit. But why is it ok to demonise welfare recipients but not someone who is rorting the system in other ways. Even if it is legal it is still immoral.

I feel really sad that people think it's ok to put the boot in to people who are more vulnerable for whatever reason.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:51:09 GMT

@alexander*beetle wrote:
The notion of a hard day’s work is an especially foreign concept for some on the far left.

And of course this doesn't apply to absolutely no-one who votes Liberal.

This article is the sort of thing that was to be expected by the headkickers. Of course there are people who rort the system. But they are in the minority. Just like there are people who fudge their taxes and corporates who minimise their salaries. But we don't accuse everyone of doing it. However, if you are on some form of welfare then you are easy game to be demonsied.

Someone on a high wage can minimise their salary and not pay their required tax. Someone taking cash for work done and not declaring it can minimise their tax. Someone with a corporation can minimise their tax. And some of these people neglect to pay in a week what someone on welfare gets in a fortnight. But that's not seen as rorting the system.

Getting on disability is apparantly very hard and I'm not saying that absolutely everyone is legit. But why is it ok to demonise welfare recipients but not someone who is rorting the system in other ways. Even if it is legal it is still immoral.

I feel really sad that people think it's ok to put the boot in to people who are more vulnerable for whatever reason.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 01:51:50 GMT

@nero_wulf wrote:
Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

SCOTT Morrison’s promotion to an overarching Social Services portfolio is more than a cabinet reshuffle. It marks the beginning of the economic participation era.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott is daring to do what few before him had the guts to do and launch a wave of welfare reform. An era where Australians are told they have to “have a go.”

Where those who can work, must work.

Where all Australians assist in building the economy and fewer taxes are used to prop up those who don’t want to work.

This cultural shift will take some doing. The notion of a hard day’s work is an especially foreign concept for some on the far left.

Greens leader Christine Milne and her partner in sloth Sarah Hanson-Young yesterday screamed from the rooftops at the prospect of Morrison being sent in to clean up the welfare and childcare sectors.

“Putting Scott Morrison in charge of social services will send shivers down the spines of people across the country,” Senator Milne said. (GOOD I HOPE IT DOES)

Truth is, if you genuinely require welfare you have nothing to worry about.

The government is not going to kick the permanently disabled and those who physically cannot work off benefits.

As the Prime Minister said himself: “Government policy should always be designed to protect the vulnerable.’’

It can no longer be ignored that welfare is stifling the development of the Australian economy. We will spend $146 billion on welfare this financial year. That accounts for 35 per cent of Australia’s entire budget expenditure.

The Disability Support Pension alone costs $16 billion a year with more than 800,000 people claiming up to $800 a fortnight on the scheme. Government modelling shows Australia is on track to have more than one million people claiming the DSP within a few years.

More than 2000 people per week apply for the DSP. There is no way in the world there are 2000 people every single week who suddenly become unable to work.

The era of economic participation has been coming since July 1.

Previous Minister Kevin Andrews began a review of all DSP recipients aged below 35 with 8000 subsequently sent to employment services to find a job.

Earlier this month, the government announced all new DSP applicants would have to see Commonwealth appointed doctors to apply for the DSP — ending the practice of “doctor shopping” to find signature-happy medicos to sign off on welfare claims.

But that is only the beginning.

The Prime Minister’s pet Paid Parental Leave Scheme has to be revised and passed by the senate, childcare reforms are needed and rising the pension age to 67 and the indexation changes to the pension need to be executed.

Plans to ensure young people spend six months looking for a job before they can go on welfare to prevent a wave of “beach bums” need to be negotiated with the senate.

These are not draconian measures.

He might not be the most popular minister but his record is outstanding.

They are sensible moves to ease the welfare drain on Australia’s economy.

Morrison is the government’s best minister.

He might not be the most popular minister but his record is outstanding.

The Labor Party said it was impossible to stop the boats. Under their watch more than 50,000 illegal boat people arrived in Australia and more than 1200 people died at sea.

Morrison stopped the boats in less than a year.

He negotiated the reintroduction of Temporary Protection Visas through the senate which was arguably the most controversial legislation passed this year.

Truth be told, Morrison been left to twiddle his thumbs in Immigration because what should have taken a term to achieve he has sorted out immediately.

Sarah Hanson-Young refers to Morrison as a sociopath.

Hanson-Young is, as usual, deeply misguided.

Scott Morrison and his wife Jenny had spent 14 years of trying to have a child, which included multiple failed IVF attempts, before two miracle daughters were conceived naturally.

Morrison is very much a family man.

There will be some head kicking in the New Year and there will be some tough decisions.

This Christmas though, he will spend getting across every aspect of his new super portfolio. Attention to detail is a strong point.

There will be some head kicking in the New Year and there will be some tough decisions. But most importantly there will be a move for a more sustainable Australia.

One where welfare is a last resort, rather than a preferred option.

If the Abbott government can deliver an era of economic participation, with more people working and fewer on welfare, it will be a victory for every Australian taxpayer.

And that’s a good result for everyone.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/scott-morrisons-right-on-the-money-for-welfare-writes-daniel-meers/story-fni0cwl5-1227164524323

Well if someone can come here, live on welfare for 10 years all the while making hate videos on youtube against western values and ultimately kill 2 innocent ppl, it's well past time to review our welfare system.

Scott Morrison's the man to do it.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

alexander*beetle — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:11:20 GMT

I agree with you Icy. But what I can't stand is the demonisation of everyone on welfare because of the few who do the wrong thing.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

punch*drunk — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:23:14 GMT

Who was demonising everyone on welfare. I know several people receiving benefits they are not entitled to. My sister has even been told by a social worker to try and get DSP so she doesn't lose part of her benefits when her youngest starts school next year, she doesn't have any disabilities though. Perhaps she wanted her to fake one?

I have dobbed in a couple but nothing ever comes of it, maybe they need to start taking reports more seriously.

From the article - Truth is, if you genuinely require welfare you have nothing to worry about.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

outdoorhunting1 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:39:11 GMT

gse

I took the lead from you lot in the trash the Gov't thread.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:48:00 GMT

@outdoorhunting1 wrote:

gse

I took the lead from you lot in the trash the Gov't thread.

Not from me, you didn't. I don't post in that thread.

And if you disagree with the attitude of those who do, why take a lead from them?

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

icyfroth — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 04:52:40 GMT

@alexander*beetle wrote:
I agree with you Icy. But what I can't stand is the demonisation of everyone on welfare because of the few who do the wrong thing.

Unfortunately it's the rorters that have caused the demonisation. Genuine welfare cases will now have to suffer for those that have rorted the system for so long.

But it's easier to blame the government.

In a way it's successive governments fault they've let it blow out of control. Now Mr Abbott's copping the abuse because he's the one that's got to stop the rot.

Re: Scott Morrison’s right on the money for welfare,

nero_bolt — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:00:16 GMT

I know lets blame the Baby Boomers and those millionaires who worked hard all their lives and put away savings in the form of superannuation in order NOT TO BE A BURDEN ON THE GOVERNMENT. In the meantime, however, the government continues to be a burden on self-funded retirees through taxation and no "welfare" benefits whatsoever.

It's time everyone started thinking OUTSIDE THE BOX.

All governments since the 1960's have been fully aware of the increase in the number of aged from 2010, but have done zip all about it.

How about this scenario: More and more younger people are becoming long term unemployed, many have never been employed. What burden on society are they now, let alone when they move onto an aged care pension?

Lets not blame the baby boomers; lets blame all of those people who have never ever worked and will never work!

Meanwhile "....almost half of Australia’s 12.2 million families and individual income earners contribute nothing to the public purse as any tax paid is offset by welfare churn." Let's get rid of this "welfare churn".

"A system in which a family with two children earning $60,000 is so heavily subsidised through handouts that they pay no net tax is fundamentally flawed.

So is a system in which a single parent, in an extreme case, can receive $54,000 a year through the parenting payment, family tax benefits, supplements, rent assistance and education allowances."

The system MUST be overhauled; payments must be limited and people encouraged to find work