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Free Palestine

donnashuggy — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:48:12 GMT

It has to happen

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kilroy_is_here — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:35:08 GMT

why does it have to happen

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aps1080 — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:38:12 GMT

Because High all mighty Donna from the ivory tower in Bondi says so.

Turn it into 'glass' for all I care.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:48:42 GMT

@kilroy_is_here wrote:
why does it have to happen

A lot of problems have arisen from there. That's why

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the_great_she_elephant — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:49:08 GMT

@aps1080 wrote:
Because High all mighty Donna from the ivory tower in Bondi says so.

Turn it into 'glass' for all I care.

Whether "freeing" Palesatine would fix things in the Middle East is debatable, but it must be glaringly obvious that unless it happens there is not even a possibility that things will ever be fixed.

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lionrose.7 — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:50:47 GMT

Ahhh Donna if only you and I could sort out the world, before they blow it up.

Sit all the heads of every country down and say just bloody listen or we will smack your bums and you wont get any pudding 🙂

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donnashuggy — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:52:06 GMT

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@aps1080 wrote:
Because High all mighty Donna from the ivory tower in Bondi says so.

Turn it into 'glass' for all I care.

Whether "freeing" Palesatine would fix things in the Middle East is debatable, but it must be glaringly obvious that unless it happens there is not even a possibility that things will ever be fixed.

I so agree

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softail-joanie — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:37:05 GMT

Jesus said "If the son shall make you free you shall be free indeed"

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idlewhile — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 23:02:15 GMT

Free Palestine? ask the terrorist arm of the Hesbullah what they want, freedom? freedom from what? they'd have to join the rest of the Middle Eastern Muslim world in war and killing, why bother, when they can do it in their own backyards.

It saddens me when we get the Palestinian support and sympathy on here but never any other view.

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k0llectable5 — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 23:27:59 GMT

@idlewhile wrote:
Free Palestine? ask the terrorist arm of the Hesbullah what they want, freedom? freedom from what? they'd have to join the rest of the Middle Eastern Muslim world in war and killing, why bother, when they can do it in their own backyards.

It saddens me when we get the Palestinian support and sympathy on here but never any other view.

There is always opposing views when this subject arises. People that support or sympathise with the innocent Palestinian children (the average age of people living in Palestine is 17 yrs) who have had to live through Israeli military operations and occupation, house demolitions, checkpoints and blockades are often labelled terrorist sympathizers.

I would say there are just as many supporters of Israel as there are supporters of Palestine here...

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village_person — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 23:37:29 GMT

Free Palestine

That would mean an end to the victimhood mentality that is part of the palestinians' baggage.

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k0llectable5 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:23:16 GMT

@village_person wrote:
Free Palestine

That would mean an end to the victimhood mentality that is part of the palestinians' baggage.

But they are the victims.

Think about it, maybe try and put yourself in a Palestinians shoes. You are born into military occupation, by the age of 12 you have already seen 3 wars, possibly lost one or more of your parents, one or more of your siblings, possibly your whole family,

your house has been demolished, everytime you want to go somewhere you have to go through a military checkpoint just so you can go to school, the street you live in had suspected terrorists living there so it is now reduced to rubble, you have no fresh water, no electricity, very little medical aid, no military to protect you. If you are not a victim what are you? A terrorist?

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aps1080 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:27:52 GMT

If they stop lobbing rockets into Civilian suburbs of Israel, that might help.

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k0llectable5 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:43:24 GMT

@aps1080 wrote:

If they stop lobbing rockets into Civilian suburbs of Israel, that might help.

Please Aps, from your posts I can tell that you are an intellegent person. Surely you understand that according to international law occupied peoples have a right to resist... How many people have those rockets killed? how many "targets" do they even hit? I'll be the first to admit the firing of rockets is not helping their cause.. But honestly what are an unarmed, occupied, blockaded, oppressed nation supposed to do? Just lay down and let the IDF roll over the top of them in an M1 Abrams tank?

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aps1080 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:50:58 GMT

They now don't kill as many as they used to because Israel has a system for knocking them out.

Resist, yes, but don't **bleep** and moan if you fire on civilians and then the people you are fired at do exactly the same back

AND use civilians to hide behind, or use Hospitals and Schools to fire from which then makes them LEGITIMATE military targets.

Just remember that next time you complain.

You can't have it both ways and when you have an enemy like Israel who really couldn't GAF what the world thinks,

then you are in a losing situation.

A "western" Gov't might not fire back but Israel does, So stop poking the bear.

They are NOT unarmed, far from it.

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monman12 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 00:57:35 GMT

"Free Palestine" Exactly what do YOU understand that hackneyed phrase to mean DH, are you just regurgitating a popular social media theme, or just initiating your own?

"Free Palestine' can be an intimidating slogan, because it is often heard alongside 'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free': a chant that calls for the elimination of Israel. Most Jews would be happy to see a free Palestine, but next to a free Israel -- not instead of it."

"But what does 'Free Palestine' really mean? What 'Palestine' are politicians and ordinary members of the public, referring to, if they are indeed aware of the context of the situation at all?"

"Palestine' could simply refer to the territories of Gaza and the occupied West Bank as we know them today. It could also allude to a Palestine defined by the borders in place before the United Nation's 1947 partition plan, or the borders following the 1967 Six-Day War. "

So explain the title and your thoughts, please.

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k0llectable5 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:05:52 GMT

@aps1080 wrote:

They now don't kill as many as they used to because Israel has a system for knocking them out.

Resist, yes, but don't **bleep** and moan if you fire on civilians and then the people you are fired at do exactly the same back
AND use civilians to hide behind, or use Hospitals and Schools to fire from which then makes them LEGITIMATE military targets.
Just remember that next time you complain.

You can't have it both ways and when you have an enemy like Israel who really couldn't GAF what the world thinks,
then you are in a losing situation.

A "western" Gov't might not fire back but Israel does, So stop poking the bear.

They are NOT unarmed, far from it.

The general population is unarmed and they dont have a proper military to protect them.

They do not use civilians to hide behind, thats just you spouting the same rhetoric that Netanyahu spouts. Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth, what would you suggest? They stand out in open fields to shoot rockets?

There have been a total of 33 deaths from rocket fire since 2001... Compare that with the thousands of innocent lives lost due to military operations in Gaza and the West Bank.

So why is it that Israel can get around not Giving AF and yet America just keeps pumping billions of military aid into her every year? Why do they get away with it? Think about it...

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aps1080 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:09:14 GMT

I know way they get away with it and so does everyone else.

Eve more reason not to poke the bear !

"They do not use civilians to hide behind, thats just you spouting the same rhetoric that Netanyahu spouts"

Do you want the photos and video of it ?

Including children firing the mortars (pulling the string ?)

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k0llectable5 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:16:26 GMT

@aps1080 wrote:

I know way they get away with it and so does everyone else.

Eve more reason not to poke the bear !

"They do not use civilians to hide behind, thats just you spouting the same rhetoric that Netanyahu spouts"

Do you want the photos and video of it ?
Including children firing the mortars (pulling the string ?)

Sure post it... While you are at it post the pictures of the IDF using Palestinian children as human shields...

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debra9275 — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:29:49 GMT

Sure post it... While you are at it post the pictures of the IDF using Palestinian children as human shields.

i've seen so many of those, amongst other atrocities, that it's brought me to tears