topic Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD in Community Spirit

Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

ufo_investigations — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:51:25 GMT

The government buys houses and rents them out to people at a discounted rate and the tax payer has to carry this burden.

Why is this so? Governments should not be buying houses!

I'm sorry but we should not have government housing!

Complete waste money!

All government housing should be sold to private sector!

The millions of dollars raised from the sale will build better roads, freeways, hospitals.

Governments should govern NOT buy houses for people to live in!

The job of government is to govern not babysit people!

***** Dear State Governments **** Please SELL ALL GOVERNMENT HOUSES !!! ****

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

iapetus_rocks — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:14:27 GMT

It has been said that the measure of a civilisation is how it treats its poor and disadvantaged citizens.

What would you do? have them starve and shiver, exposed to the elements?

Also, our cynical free enterprise economic system demands and requires that there be a large pool of unemployed (and therefore, poor) people in society to maintain a downward pressure on wages and the inflation rate, which in turn, maximizes the profit margins for those who own the means of production.

It is a system which is designed to trickle-up money and wealth away from the poor and into the pockets of those who already have so much.

You know what the private sector would do. You have seen it in action; every time you open a letter (bill) from your electricity or water supplier.

The following is from an old (2013) article, but it is instructive, all the same.

Mining magnate Gina Rinehart had Aus$7 billion (US$6.8 billion) wiped off her fortune in the past year but remains Australia's wealthiest person, an annual rich list showed Wednesday.

Rinehart, heiress to an iron ore prospecting empire built in Australia's resources-rich west, led the respected BRW Rich 200 list for a third year in a row with a personal fortune of Aus$22.02 billion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/gina-rinehart-australias-richest-person_n_3316897.html

Ms Rinehart, on her own, out of her own pocket, could afford to pay for housing for all of the homeless people in Australia. and she wouldn't even notice the change to the weight in her pockets.

And, she is only one of many wealthy Australians who could afford to do this. and yet they don't.

I think the "private sector" already has enough of our money, don't you? and it's about time they gave some back.

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

freshwater-2 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:21:43 GMT

Yes, and the tenants can sleep in their cars, including deserted mothers and their children.

Hold on....according to Jolly Joe .the poor don't have cars do they?

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myoclon1cjerk — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:36:12 GMT

Government should not be feathering landlords nests.

Dear federal government.ABOLISH NEGATIVE GEARING!!!

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

iapetus_rocks — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:48:01 GMT

For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: ... Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. Matthew 25:28

LNP policy even in antiquity?

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

joz*garage — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:01:48 GMT

that doesnt sound australian

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j*oono — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:02:27 GMT

@iapetus_rocks wrote:
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: ... Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. Matthew 25:28

LNP policy even in antiquity?

I can't kudo that because I haven't read the bible but it sounds about right.

A good quote from twitter today.

HeyJoe Hockey. How much would a former PM's parliamentary perks cost the taxpayer if he were to live to be 150?

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

cherry*135 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:44:36 GMT

That is one area where taxes are supposed to be spent on.

Private rents $450 p.w. for an avg 3 bedroom house - how can someone on a low income/benefit afford that?

All government housing should be sold to private sector! That doesn't usually end well either for the Govt/Taxpayers. Sell it for a pittance, private owner waits 6 months and resells it for a huge profit.. millions in some cases with apartment blocks.

Result Govt didn't get much $$, public housing sold and those tenants have nowhere to live.

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

iapetus_rocks — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:57:05 GMT

No one on social security benefits or even on minimum wage can afford that.

Even people earning $1,000 per week would be hard pressed to make ends meet and still pay their rent on time.

It used to be that people on low income would club together and rent a house and all chip in their fair share to pay the rent.

I once lived in a house in Sydney with eight other people. Big house in Gladesville within sight of the bridge. I forget how much the rent was.

It's the only way that poor people can afford to rent a decent house. . . share with as many others as can be ~~comfortably~~ accommodated.

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

iapetus_rocks — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:05:20 GMT

We couldn't afford to run the hot water heater. But, the house was 2 stories and the bathroom was on the upper floor, so the sun shone hot on the water pipe leading up to the bathroom and it was possible to take a quick shower before the water ran cold.

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k0llectable5 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:52:50 GMT

Just think... when we have thousands of people homeless and desperate because the guvment sold their house, we can just tell them "dont worry mate at least we have more roads and freeways now..."

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lionrose.7 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:09:07 GMT

Is this Pick on the homeless and poor people week!!!

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punch*drunk — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:21:56 GMT

We need public housing but we need it better regulated so that people are moved on when they no longer need it or shifted to smaller houses when their children have grown.

I'd like to see the government heavily subsidise private rentals for disadvantaged people to get them off the housing waiting list. Even those on welfare that can afford to pay rent cant get a rental because they are on welfare. I reckon it could be cheaper to subsidise rent than own and maintain all those properties.

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lyne-flyn — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:22:55 GMT

@ufo_investigations wrote:
The government buys houses and rents them out to people at a discounted rate and the tax payer has to carry this burden.

Why is this so? Governments should not be buying houses!

I'm sorry but we should not have government housing!
Complete waste money!

All government housing should be sold to private sector!

The millions of dollars raised from the sale will build better roads, freeways, hospitals.

Governments should govern NOT buy houses for people to live in!

The job of government is to govern not babysit people!

***** Dear State Governments **** Please SELL ALL GOVERNMENT HOUSES !!! ****

And just where do you propose the current tenants in these houses live?

You must have some idea if you are so keen on taking peoples homes from them.

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

ivoau65 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:55:14 GMT

@ufo_investigations wrote:
The government buys houses and rents them out to people at a discounted rate and the tax payer has to carry this burden.

Why is this so? Governments should not be buying houses!

I'm sorry but we should not have government housing!
Complete waste money!

All government housing should be sold to private sector!

The millions of dollars raised from the sale will build better roads, freeways, hospitals.

Governments should govern NOT buy houses for people to live in!

The job of government is to govern not babysit people!

***** Dear State Governments **** Please SELL ALL GOVERNMENT HOUSES !!! ****

NONSENSE! It may be better managed but to abolish it is nonsense.You think the private investors care about people being homeless?Why would anyone believe you anyway?When it suited you to act like a Bible believing catholic you did that even though you do not believe the Bible and do not follow it.So why would anyone believe anything you said?

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

ivoau65 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:57:02 GMT

@iapetus_rocks wrote:
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: ... Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. Matthew 25:28

LNP policy even in antiquity?

Except you do not understand what it means.

Re: Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

rabbitearbandicoot — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:16:12 GMT

@secondhand-wonderland wrote:
Just think... when we have thousands of people homeless and desperate because the guvment sold their house, we can just tell them "dont worry mate at least we have more roads and freeways now..."

they could sleep under the new bridges and overpassses.

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lurker172602 — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:19:43 GMT

Am I correct in thinking you have to have a permanent address to get welfare benefits?

Ha! Two birds, one stone!

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rabbitearbandicoot — Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:20:28 GMT

@punch*drunk wrote:
We need public housing but we need it better regulated so that people are moved on when they no longer need it or shifted to smaller houses when their children have grown.

I agree with that, but, there was a thread a while ago decrying that policy. Poor people having to move after renting a place for 30 years and bringing up their children there - why should they move out of the 4/5 bedroom essentially empty house into a smaller one so someone with 5 kids can live there instead of in their car - a bit selfish don't you think.

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daydream**believer — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 01:19:43 GMT

"We need public housing but we need it better regulated so that people are moved on when they no longer need it or shifted to smaller houses when their children have grown."

Totally agree.

I knew of an elderly lady in a 3 bedroom house while a family of 3 kids and 2 adults were in a 2 bedroom house