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Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:49:08 GMT

Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

They said it was a Cat 5 cyclone, yet all the wind speeds, sustained and gusts show that it was only a Cat 3.

In addition, the pressure level never got down to a Cat 5.

And regardless of the better building codes compared to Darwin/Tracy in 1974, the damage was no where near a Cat 5.

For a start, the trees still had leaves on them. In all the Cat 5 cyclones in the last 30 years, no trees had leaves

left on them.

In addition, "Data for Middle Percy Island has disappeared from the BOM site, but Jennifer Marohasy kept a copy.

(I’m sure the BOM will be grateful!)..."

Have a read of this.

http://joannenova.com.au/

IN ADDITION

It seems some of the media outlets wewre dissapointed that the damage wasn't worse. That was the impression I got.

Almost like Disaster porn.

Any comments ?

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:50:12 GMT

Scientist Jennifer Marohasy who has a house near where cyclone Marcia crossed the coast has some interesting observations...

"...tropical cyclone Marcia made landfall ... just after passing over Middle Percy Island ...There is a weather station on Middle Percy, and it recorded a top wind speed of 156 km/h, the strongest gust was 208 km/h, and the lowest central pressure was 972 hPa. This raw observational data is available at the Bureau’s website and indicates a category 3 cyclone..."

http://jennifermarohasy.com/

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

idlewhile — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:57:18 GMT

BOM is under investigation for manipulation and harmonizing data to suit their agenda.

As for the feeding frenzy of TV weather sensationalisation. That's what they do, its like OH look there's a unicorn!!!! they are lazy and incompetent.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:01:06 GMT

And we all know what that Agenda is

It was funny, straight after the storm hit, the "2 Cat 5 Cyclones, Global warming headline,

more cyclones down south to come" came out.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

idlewhile — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:04:32 GMT

@vicr3000 wrote:

And we all know what that Agenda is

It was funny, straight after the storm hit, the "2 Cat 5 Cyclones, Global warming headline,
more cyclones down south to come" came out.

The ABC is running a climate change agenda that is totally biased, wrong and partisan. They are a disgrace and we should have a say in selling it off.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:17:23 GMT

I reckon the BOM manipulating data and removing highs and lows
from the past to be far worse.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

2106greencat — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:22:00 GMT

So.......... whatchamean? ........should people complain that is was a cat 3, not a cat 5 ???

Sorry, not quite sure what point you are trying to make.....if it is that the BOM get things wrong, then DUH - where ya been ?

As to the residents who were 'lucky' getting a cat 3, they may argue that point, once they have rebuilt thier homes that is!

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

ladydeburg — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:22:11 GMT

@vicr3000 wrote:

I reckon the BOM manipulating data and removing highs and lows
from the past to be far worse.

Yes I agree, It's not a bureau we can rely on ever again. they have been polluted by left ideology like many of our institutions.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:25:19 GMT

No, not complaining.

The wind speeds were still coming in, they didn't get wiped out
like say Tracy so they had accurate wind data all the way.

In other words, they should not have made it a Cat 5 and blown it out of all proportion.

They had an Agenda to push, make it worse than it was.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

***super_nova*** — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:25:01 GMT

I thought it was 5 and was downgraded by the time it hit land. Maybe some news outlets missed that bit and kept reporting it was 5.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:25:50 GMT

I was watching both regularly.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

poddster — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:27:38 GMT

Could it be so that the modified data supports the global warming scam?

Oh yes, it is now "Climate Change" how convenient

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:44:26 GMT

Eventhough there has been approximately $30M of damage to the Rockhampton area alone, thankfully, the damage from Cyclone Marcia was not quite as bad as it could have been. Many people who have experience cyclones first hand have been surprised that a Category 5 cyclone like Cyclone Marcia did not cause as much damage as normally expected when it hit land, then proceeded down to the Rockhampton area as a Category 3. Did the Bureau of Meteorology get it right ?

This morning I spoke with Research Scientist Jennifer Morahasy from CQ University about the issue and she told listeners that BOM observations taken during the cyclone seemed to indicate that it was less intense than a Category 5 cyclone when it hit the coast and not Category 3 when it went over the Rockhampton and Yeppoon areas.

Listen to our discussion here: https://soundcloud.com/grantbroadcasters/jennifer-morahasy

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

debra9275 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:45:20 GMT

I think they're claiming that it's some kind of conspiracy, lol

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

lurker172602 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:45:31 GMT

I reckon my friend in Rocky was quite happy it was a 3 when they were prepared for a 4 or 5.

This would have to be one of the dumbest "let's complain about a public service/govt department" threads ever!

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:47:15 GMT

I was glad to watch the wind speeds and see that they were a lot less than what a Cat 5 was.

So likewise.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

debra9275 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:49:02 GMT

Our friend too Lurks,he said the place is a mess, trees and iron sheeting everywhere, but he's ok. Next some people here will be saying it never happened at all, lol.

cyclones often weaken a bit as they cross land, thank goodness

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:55:54 GMT

Re weakening, did you see that Marcia weakened a little bit but Cyclone Lam Dropped down to a 1 and then a Low very quickly.

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

debra9275 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:59:22 GMT

Can you tell me what advantage it would be to the BOM to pretend it was going to be worse than it was? I just heard on the news $50 million damage, that's bad enough imo

Re: Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 07:04:08 GMT

Two Cat 4/5's at once, one much further down south than normal.

Same as manipulating (removing) inconvenient temp data, the higher temps now can be made to look more extreme.

I am not saying it is a conspiracy (re the Cyclones), just seems weird when they had actual AND ACCURATE wind data coming in that they forecast it as so high.

Remember, this Cyclone passed directly over an Island just off shore that had accurate wind readings so it's not like they were guessing.

If no Island had been there, then I would understand guessing a bit
but factual data, hard to refute.

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