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Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

ladydeburg — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:13:36 GMT

I have been watching for a few weeks now and was deeply concerned that the ads being run by unions is completely dishonest. Is it legal to do this? I asked a political scientist and he said that the ads being run by unions NSW were bordering on the worst advertising he had ever seen in an election.

I was relieved when I saw the interview on channel 9 last night and Luke Foley trying to explain away the unions campaign. was disturbed that Luke Foley saw nothing wrong in the campaign being run by unions NSW, the union that is bankrolling the Labor campaign.

All I can say is thank goodness somebody finally shone a light on it.

http://www.9news.com.au/sitecore/content/news/news/national/2015/03/03/19/48/luke-foley-tells-peter-overton-why-he-should-lead-nsw

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

saveonlineshopping — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:19:22 GMT

To be honest, a 99 year lease is effectively a sell off.

Having said that, neither party is promoting the intrests of their voter base, and the only real option these days is the Greens.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

vicr3000 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:21:42 GMT

Greens

Only if you want the state to go backwards.

The Greens will kill off ALL investment in NSW.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

lloydslights — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:25:35 GMT

I haven't seen the union ads for privatising hospitals comparing to American hospitals, lately.

I wonder what Union members think about the ads. And how their money is spent after the Top Dogs get their bite first. Along with Cabcharge accounts, etc. a la Thomson, Williamson,......

DEB

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

ladydeburg — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:29:35 GMT

Another worrying aspect of this dishonest campaign is, where is the ABC here, where is Laurie Oakes, he's nowhere to be seen even though he's the top political reporter for channel 9.

Also another concern is, where is the truth in advertising body?.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

lloydslights — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:38:13 GMT

Laurie Oakes may have retired - he's over 70. Maybe he'll be around for some guest commentary soon.

Edited: Sorry. Maybe he's on holidays, before coming back refreshed for the NSW election week.

DEB

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

debra9275 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:59:17 GMT

I think there's some degree of dishonesy in all political advertising,... From everyone

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

ladydeburg — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:32:55 GMT

I have to agree but this is well over the top and is puzzling that the Honesty in Advertising wasn't on it.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

the_hawk* — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:37:02 GMT

If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

ladydeburg — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:40:15 GMT

@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example

That is your opinion but nothing to do with the topic which is about the Unions NSW dishonest campaign and the support Luke Foley is giving it because the unions are bankrolling the election. That in itself is deeply concerning.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

cherry*135 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:57:28 GMT

@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example

That bit is on topic - dishonest

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

the_hawk* — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:00:38 GMT

@ladydeburg wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example
That is your opinion but nothing to do with the topic which is about the Unions NSW dishonest campaign and the support Luke Foley is giving it because the unions are bankrolling the election. That in itself is deeply concerning.

isnt your topic about honesty?

or are you just Union bashing

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

vicr3000 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:02:01 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example
That bit is on topic - dishonest

Do stay on topic am3

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

ladydeburg — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:03:15 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example
That bit is on topic - dishonest

Totally agree and the interview Luke Foley gave re inforces that fact. It was patently dishonest the way he tried to say those ads were union ads but couldn't say anything after he was reminded that unions NSW are bankrolling his campaign.

So 100% correct about the dishonesty.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

the_hawk* — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:07:08 GMT

Glad you agree Tony is a lying deceitful egotistical bully

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

i-need-a-martini — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:07:39 GMT

I don't understand what your issue is? What is it the unions are lying about? And why are their ads 'bordering on illegal'?

The ads I have seen are stating the obvious - our electricity providers are about to be sold off, our hospital budgets are going to cut and our schools will be fiscally degraded. If you have a look at Bairds policies, this is exactly what he is doing. Which part of this is a lie?

Another worrying aspect of this dishonest campaign is, where is the ABC here, where is Laurie Oakes, he's nowhere to be seen even though he's the top political reporter for channel 9.

And how the heck did the ABC get caught up in this? What do you expect the ABC should do? And I don't know if you've noticed, but the ABC do not have adverts. So clearly your comment is simply a broad general swipe at the ABC that serves no purpose whatsoever.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

cherry*135 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:12:04 GMT

@vicr3000 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example
That bit is on topic - dishonest

Do stay on topic am3

It is on topic.

Where does one find these alleged dishonest 'Ads'?

I get flyers in the mailbox stating what liars the current NSW State Govt are and how they are wrecking this and that.. good flyers.

To quote Martini's post above which is more specific:

The ads I have seen are stating the obvious - our electricity providers are about to be sold off, our hospital budgets are going to cut and our schools will be fiscally degraded. If you have a look at Bairds policies, this is exactly what he is doing. Which part of this is a lie?

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

i-need-a-martini — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:12:36 GMT

@ladydeburg wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:
If its OK for people like the Prime minister to lie to the people I don't see what your upset about.

Dont they lead by example
That is your opinion but nothing to do with the topic which is about the Unions NSW dishonest campaign and the support Luke Foley is giving it because the unions are bankrolling the election. That in itself is deeply concerning.

And so what if unions donate funds? That is what the Labor Party stands for after all - helping the average Australian worker.

Is it less or more concerning that the fact that for-profit and self interested corporations fund the Liberal campaign for Baird?

At least the unions have my (and your) interests at heart. How does the millions that Murdoch/Rhineharts/Fairfaxes send to the Liberal Party help Australians in any way?

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

vicr3000 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:14:54 GMT

I need

I think you are a bit one eyed there.

Big business fund Labor just as much.

And the Unions have their own interest at heart first before yours.

Re: Dishonest Union Ads in NSW Election.

donnashuggy — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:25:25 GMT

@ladydeburg wrote:
I have been watching for a few weeks now and was deeply concerned that the ads being run by unions is completely dishonest. Is it legal to do this? I asked a political scientist and he said that the ads being run by unions NSW were bordering on the worst advertising he had ever seen in an election.

I was relieved when I saw the interview on channel 9 last night and Luke Foley trying to explain away the unions campaign. was disturbed that Luke Foley saw nothing wrong in the campaign being run by unions NSW, the union that is bankrolling the Labor campaign.

All I can say is thank goodness somebody finally shone a light on it.

http://www.9news.com.au/sitecore/content/news/news/national/2015/03/03/19/48/luke-foley-tells-peter-overton-why-he-should-lead-nsw

https://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/the-little-book-of-big-liberal-lies/