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Boycott Bali

idlewhile — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:02:04 GMT

If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.

We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.

They have ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.

I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.

Re: Boycott Bali

j*oono — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:06:34 GMT

Although I don't agree with a boycott I do otherwise agree with you. Appalled and disgusted also.

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azureline** — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:09:07 GMT

We should punish a whole country for the laws that were in place prior to the offence?

Re: Boycott Bali

idlewhile — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:12:14 GMT

nah! lets just keep giving them our tourist dollars and to hell with them murdering 2 Australians.

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azureline** — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:19:36 GMT

They are not the first are they?

Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?

I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

Re: Boycott Bali

lionrose.7 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:20:08 GMT

I went to Bali once never liked it, strange feeling never felt safe, 8 months later They killed with bombs.

I feel safer in Thailand.

I would never go to Bali again, I hated it recently when my grand daughter had a holiday there, was a worry to me.

Re: Boycott Bali

cherry*135 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:26:15 GMT

Punish the poor people of Bali, whose main income is tourism? Let prospective tourists decide for themselves whether they want to travel there or not.

As much as we don't agree with Indonesian laws, there is nothing any other country's Govt can do to interfere in that respect.

Do you want to cancel exports to Indonesia? I don't think that would go down well with Aust companies that export produce & goods there. Many billions of dollars gone from our economy.

Re: Boycott Bali

idlewhile — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:30:24 GMT

Boycott all tourism to Bali and impose sanctions on Indonesia. Then they might show the compassion that their "peaceful" religion extolls.

Re: Boycott Bali

vicr3000 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:34:16 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
They are not the first are they?
Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?
I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

The AFP did nothing wrong.

Re: Boycott Bali

kopenhagen5 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:34:20 GMT

It is not murder.

If you are to move forward with a genuine cause you need to be 100% correct or you lose credibility.

I may not agree with what is happening but I equally cannot support causes that don't communicate the precise facts.

Re: Boycott Bali

j*oono — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:34:48 GMT

@idlewhile wrote:
Boycott all tourism to Bali and impose sanctions on Indonesia. Then they might show the compassion that their "peaceful" religion extolls.

Hinduism?

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the_hawk* — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:11:24 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
They are not the first are they?
Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?
I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

The sentence needs to fit the crime, these couriers are only greedy people wanting to make a quick $,

the real criminals are the drug lords that are protected by a corrupt police force and Government.

They are the ones that should be dealt with harshly, but corruption and pay offs protect them

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***super_nova*** — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:16:47 GMT

I think we should boycott all countries that still have death penalty. It would not leave many of favorite holiday destinations though. So lets just only boycott those who kill Australians, right.

Execution is a murder, it is a government sanctioned but still murder.

murder

ˈməːdə/

noun

noun: murder; plural noun: murders

1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Re: Boycott Bali

azureline** — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:18:52 GMT

@vicr3000 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
They are not the first are they?
Execution is not murder, it's the sentence they were given, with the full cooperation of the AFP, who had ample opportunity to stop it before it happened. Boycott them?
I am not in favour of the death penalty in any circumstances.

The AFP did nothing wrong.

I disagree, so does Scott Rush's family.

Re: Boycott Bali

idlewhile — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:30:47 GMT

Watta joko can deem clemency anytine he likes but instead of acting like a human being he sanctions state Murder, murder by the hundreds under his rule

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azureline** — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:42:53 GMT

The Australian Federal Police must take the blame for the two Bali Nine ringleaders being on death row and do everything to save them, a lawyer close to the case says.

Bob Myers, a barrister and family friend of Bali Nine drug courier Scott Rush, tipped off the AFP in 2005 about the attempted heroin run from Bali to Australia. He said he now feels "betrayed".

The AFP assured him they would approach Rush before he left the country, he said. Instead, the AFP relayed the names, dates of birth and passport numbers of the Bali Nine members to Indonesian authorities, triggering their arrests.

Now, Bali Nine ringleaders Andrew Chan, 31, and Myuran Sukumaran, 33, face death by firing squad this month.

"I am really urging ... the AFP to stand up and say, 'Look, this was our fault, we had no authority to do it'," Mr Myers said on ABC's Radio National.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/afp-must-admit-to-its-big-mistake-leading-to-bali-nine-executions-says-barrister-friend-20150207-138g0a.html

Re: Boycott Bali

icyfroth — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:50:14 GMT

I agree with a boycott, but not because of the executions.

Re: Boycott Bali

debra9275 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:53:04 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
@idlewhile wrote:
Boycott all tourism to Bali and impose sanctions on Indonesia. Then they might show the compassion that their "peaceful" religion extolls.
Hinduism?

that is another sad thing here Joono, the Balinese are largely Hindu and do not support these executions but i guess most of the travellers dollars end up being taxes paid into jakarta

Re: Boycott Bali

cherry*135 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:54:55 GMT

Who is going to enforce the boycott? Australian Govt? Not their position to tell people where they can go on their holidays ( except give advice warnings for countries where tourists can be in dangerous conditions)

What is the point of this thread? Telling posters here to Boycott Bali? Fat lot of difference that would make, to the very high number of Australians holidaying there.

Boycott Bali

Boycott halal certification

etc, etc.. all noise

I have never been to Bali and don't intend to. I wouldn't expect everyone else to do the same though.

Re: Boycott Bali

cherry*135 — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:56:21 GMT

@idlewhile wrote:
Watta joko can deem clemency anytine he likes but instead of acting like a human being he sanctions state Murder, murder by the hundreds under his rule

Are you 100% sure about that claim?