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People who do not vaccinate will lose $

***super_nova*** — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:03:17 GMT

From January 2016 parents who do not vaccinate their kids will lose up to $15 000 in allowances/concessions, except in cases of medical and some religious reasons.

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debra9275 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:10:47 GMT

here's a bit more on that Nova

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-12/parents-who-refuse-to-vaccinate-to-miss-out-on-childcare-rebates/6386448

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:10:47 GMT

About time.

Criteria is still far too loose, it needs tigtening up even more so very few loopholes.

Although the media was a bit naughty with how they reported that baby dying of whooping cough,

although it fitted the agenda that they wanted to push !!!

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icyfroth — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:14:20 GMT

I think that's an infringement on civil rights.

People who are seriously anti-vax will simply shrug it off anyway.

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lind9650 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:20:25 GMT

Well, that should increase the membership of some religious sects.

Erica

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Anonymous — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:21:27 GMT

@lind9650 wrote:
Well, that should increase the membership of some religious sects.

Erica

lol

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:24:26 GMT

@lind9650 wrote:
Well, that should increase the membership of some religious sects.

Erica

Then we can class them as a cult

Re: People who do not vaccinate will lose $

azureline** — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:52:00 GMT

I don't agree, I think if they are serious, they need to make it compulsory for everyone, with the exception of medical grounds.

Are the people on incomes too high to qualify for FTB and CCR going to be exempt? looks that way and looks like discrimination.

Same again for Religious exemptions.

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:02:54 GMT

Agree, but even religious grounds can be a bit iffy.

It's not like it only affects the person or people involved, it can and does affect everyone around them or could at some stage, especially if you lose that herd immunity.

Just look at the outbreaks in the US recently, for deseases that should not have occurred.

God help if small pox ever takes hold in any great numbers of people,
that would be hard to stop.

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azureline** — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:09:18 GMT

No, I meant there should be no exemptions, other than medical.

I also think there should be compulsory booster shots for adults..... before they start this nonsense of forcing people on certain incomes to have them.

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j*oono — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:15:00 GMT

I really would prefer that all children be immunised but seriously, do we need another slogan?

"This is essentially a 'no jab, no pay' policy from this Government," Mr Abbott said.

In a way I still think that parents should have the right to say no, but I also think that child care centres should be allowed to refuse children that are not immunised unless for medical reasons. After all, you can't put your dog in a kennel if it isn't immunised and that is for the protection of other pets that they are looking after.

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gleee58 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:15:49 GMT

@azureline** wrote:
No, I meant there should be no exemptions, other than medical.

I also think there should be compulsory booster shots for adults..... before they start this nonsense of forcing people on certain incomes to have them.

Yes, there needs to be an education campaign to inform the community that not all childhood immunisations last a lifetime and adults need a booster shot for things like Whooping Cough. Medicare should cover the costs as it's cheaper to immunise the people than it is to treat the disease.

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:21:32 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
I really would prefer that all children be immunised but seriously, do we need another slogan?

"This is essentially a 'no jab, no pay' policy from this Government," Mr Abbott said.

In a way I still think that parents should have the right to say no, but I also think that child care centres should be allowed to refuse children that are not immunised unless for medical reasons. After all, you can't put your dog in a kennel if it isn't immunised and that is for the protection of other pets that they are looking after.

Absolutely.

Want a "legal" exemption, not a problem but Gov't chilcare centres should not allow them to attend,

the families have to make their own arrangements and every parent of children where they do end up

needs to be told that the child isn't immunised.

And as you say, the right to refuse admission should be held up.

Re: People who do not vaccinate will lose $

cherry*135 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:28:17 GMT

@***super_nova*** wrote:
From January 2016 parents who do not vaccinate their kids will lose up to $15 000 in allowances/concessions, except in cases of medical and some religious reasons.

Is that from The Daily Telegraph? (Anti-vaccination parents face $15,000 welfare hit under ‘No Jab’ reforms)

Seems over-inflated from other articles on the same issue.

Also parents that aren't entitled to any Family Tax benefit won't have it to lose.

SMH

Parents who do not vaccinate their children will lose welfare payments of up to $2100 per child under a federal government policy set to be announced before the May budget

Courier Mail

Any parent who doesn’t vaccinate their child will now not be eligible for up to $10,000 a year per child in childcare and welfare payments.

From January 1, 2016, failure to vaccinate their children will risk up to $7500 in childcare rebates, $2000 in family tax payments and the childcare benefit.

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cherry*135 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:27:02 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
I really would prefer that all children be immunised but seriously, do we need another slogan?

"This is essentially a 'no jab, no pay' policy from this Government," Mr Abbott said.

In a way I still think that parents should have the right to say no, but I also think that child care centres should be allowed to refuse children that are not immunised unless for medical reasons. After all, you can't put your dog in a kennel if it isn't immunised and that is for the protection of other pets that they are looking after.

Wow, a four word slogan.. instead of three.

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:39:11 GMT

He incorporated your slogan in his slogan

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cherry*135 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:39:35 GMT

You are funny, vic.

Wow, Abbott Govt now advanced to four word slogans.

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vicr3000 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:40:16 GMT

I know.

No pay seems to be getting quite a run at the moment !!!

Maybe it should be "no pay, go on holiday instead" !

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polksaladallie — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:41:29 GMT

How long before we get an uninterrupted sentence? At this rate, 20 years?

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gleee58 — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 04:46:13 GMT

@am*3 wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
I really would prefer that all children be immunised but seriously, do we need another slogan?

"This is essentially a 'no jab, no pay' policy from this Government," Mr Abbott said.

In a way I still think that parents should have the right to say no, but I also think that child care centres should be allowed to refuse children that are not immunised unless for medical reasons. After all, you can't put your dog in a kennel if it isn't immunised and that is for the protection of other pets that they are looking after.

Wow, a four word slogan.. instead of three.

Does it count as four when two of those words are the favoured NO words?