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Australia Post Accused of Making Racist Stamps

icyfroth — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:00:07 GMT

Prominent pro-Palestine blog Australians for Palestine is calling for people to boycott the 60c and $2.60 stamps that feature the Australian Light Horse at the Battle of Beersheba against Turkey in 1917.

Activist Sonja Karkar said she purchased the stamp and "received far more than I bargained for – nothing less, would you believe, than a dollop of Israeli propaganda".

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/06/20/17/26/australia-post-stamps-racist-say-activists#gigyaComments

Ms Karkar said the stamp is inaccurate as the town of Beersheeba was a Palestinian town at the time.

"This is a really disturbing and incorrect remark," Ms Karkar wrote.

"It is insulting to the memory of Palestinians who were terrorised into leaving their city Beersheba when the newly-created Israel captured it in 1948 and who have never been allowed to return to their homes."

Does anyone know what the Hebrew writing says?

And why is the issue of these stamps jointly with Israel?

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azureline** — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:26:15 GMT

The 1947 UN Partition Plan included Beersheba in the territory allotted to the proposed Arab state as the city's population of 4,000 was primarily Arab, so right or wrong re Israel...... I am not sure....

I find all that hard to decipher, however, I have never believed in the formation of Israel as it was done.

As for the stamp..... should we have to negate the history of our Light Horse .... given it was all done in good faith when we knew no better?

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***super_nova*** — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:34:18 GMT

Why in the hell would AP issuing stamps with Israel? I am not sure about insult to the Palestinians, as this was WW1, But thanks for letting us know; I will not be posting letters with Israeli stamps on it. Just as well I just got some yesterday with the cows & oranges 🙂

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monman12 — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:35:37 GMT

History is not my strong point. However, the stamp depicts the charge of the Australian Light Horse (part of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force) against the defences of Beersheeba which was part of the Turkish Empire at the time.

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***super_nova*** — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:40:46 GMT

The 1947 UN Partition Plan included Beersheba in the territory allotted to the proposed Arab state as the city's population of 4,000 was primarily Arab, so right or wrong re Israel.....

However, in 1917 there was no Israel, it was Palestina, and just because Beerheba was allotted to the Arab state does not mean it has not been occupied by Israel, and the Arab occupants driven out.

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***super_nova*** — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:42:54 GMT

History is not my strong point. However, the stamp depicts the charge of the Australian Light Horse (part of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force) against the defences of Beersheeba which was part of the Turkish Empire at the time.

Absolutely, so WHY on the earth does it have to mention Israel?

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monman12 — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:53:08 GMT

"Absolutely, so WHY on the earth does it have to mention Israel?"

Because it is a joint issue stamp, and the countries concerned are always mentioned. There have been many joint issue AP stamps in the past with many different countries.

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***super_nova*** — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:59:52 GMT

"Absolutely, so WHY on the earth does it have to mention Israel?"

Because it is a joint issue stamp, and the countries concerned are always mentioned. There have been many joint issue AP stamps in the past with many different countries.

I haven't seen any other countries, but in any case there was NO Israel in 1917.

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azureline** — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:13:16 GMT

November 2nd, 1917

The Belfor Declaration signed guaranteeing a Jewish a homeland in Palestine.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

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catsnknots — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:30:07 GMT

Is it right to call it racist?????

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kilroy_is_here — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:38:17 GMT

This is getting ridiculous , if they don't stop accusing Australians of being racist for every little thing that we do, they will wake up one day & find that australians are so sick of being told they racist that they just give in a be racist

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19501209 — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:43:08 GMT

The Hebrew on the stamp says 'Australian Horsemen'.

There is nothing untoward in Australia issuing a stamp in conjunction with another country with which it has normal relations. It has done this on a number of occasions.

Sonia Karkar has politicised this stamp issue as a way of attracting attention to the Palestinian cause. It comes out of desperation on her part because of the on-going plight of Palestinians unwilling to strike a peace deal with Israel because the terms don't suit them. She has falsely trumped up the charge of racism to attract attention.

She exhibits the typical misdirected efforts of Palestinian supporters aggrieved by the situation that the Palestinians find themselves in today. If the Palestinians had accepted a state in the UN partition plan of 1947 then we would have not seen the ongoing conflict that has unfolded since, where Israel's Arab neighbours have tried repeatedly through wars to exterminate the state of Israel.

eBay is not really the place to have this kind of political discussion and Karkar has stirred up this stupid controversy to rally those members of our community who don't want Israel to exist as a Jewish state. We need to move on.

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icyfroth — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 02:15:35 GMT

hmmm - is this a political discussion?

If yes, I don't see this political discussion as any different to any other political discussion. And politics are discussed quite freely and vigorously here.

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mr.glow — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 02:31:55 GMT

both the U.N. and the U.S. have never really come close to a peace deal in the middle east, the reason is that the arabs want to kill the jews. simple as that.

don't know what that women is going on about when most of the arab nations don't even recognise Israel as a country. [talk about a immature, childish people group]

we should stop all foreign aid to these people and instead send them all free anger management cources.

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icyfroth — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 02:52:33 GMT

Why does everyone want to kill the jews?

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best.buys — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:23:43 GMT

it's a spiritual thing icy, which most can't understand as we are here in the west living in a secular lifestyle

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icyfroth — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 06:12:19 GMT

what's a spiritual thing?

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best.buys — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 06:50:06 GMT

spiritual thing? its why throughout history the jews have been targeted. they are God's chosen people.

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the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:14:36 GMT

If the Palestinians had accepted a state in the UN partition plan of 1947 then we would have not seen the ongoing conflict that has unfolded since,

http://www.kitezh.com/texts/parker.htm

I wonder if the local inhabitants of these regions of Australia would have 'accepted' having a Jewish stated imposed on them.

Re: Australia Post Accused of Making Racist Stamps

icyfroth — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:59:26 GMT

spiritual thing? its why throughout history the jews have been targeted. they are God's chosen people.

ok.