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PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 06:53:15 GMT

PepsiCo said it would switch to sucralose, a less controversial but still artificial sweetener. The beverage giant said the change—the boldest soda reformulation since Coca-Cola's New Coke fiasco—was in response to consumer surveys showing aspartame as the No. 1 reason Americans are shunning diet colas.

The new sweetener is a blend of sucralose and acesulfame potassium that will be used in Diet Pepsi, Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi and Wild Cherry Diet Pepsi in the U.S. beginning in August. The new sweetener formulation “was developed after extensive research and testing with U.S. diet cola drinkers,” the company said.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a public health group and soft drink critic, said Friday that, while consumers should still avoid acesulfame potassium, more commonly known as Ace K, sucralose is “likely’’ a safer sweetener than aspartame. It cited past studies suggesting aspartame had caused tumors in rats, and said tests in the 1970s flagged Ace K as a potential cancer risk.

Coke and Pepsi have both been trying to solve the diet sweetener problem for years. Pepsi tweaked Diet Pepsi a couple of years ago to a blend that retained aspartame but mixed it with acesulfame potassium.

They have both spent heavily in recent years trying to develop zero-calorie sweeteners that can be marketed as natural, not artificial. Each has placed bets on stevia, which is derived from a plant but can leave a bitter aftertaste.

Coke and Pepsi rolled out cola variations sweetened with stevia in the U.S. last year, but mixed in sugar, turning them into mid-calorie colas instead of diet colas.

Entire Article Here

Again the aluminium connection:

Artificial Chemical Sweeteners - Grocery Warning

Making matters worse, soft drink companies put their liquid products containing aspartame in containers made of aluminum.

When this aluminum - a known neurotoxin - is combined with aspartame, the results are multiplied:

In the case of diet drinks in aluminum cans, the very brain-toxic aluminum fluoride compound co-exists with multiple toxins found in aspartame, thus creating the most powerful government-approved toxic soup imaginable. With the strong association between aluminum, excitotoxins, aluminum fluoride complexes and Alzheimer’s disease, it would be completely irresponsible to encourage people to consume this toxic mixture.

Yet, this is done literally billions of times every year in advertising. It is important to remember that the aluminum can has been around for only about three decades, and most toxin-related diseases take years of accumulation to produce the full clinical expression of the disorder.
-Russell Blaylock, M.D., Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

serendipityricho — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:13:11 GMT

Thats scarey Icy-but wont worry me.

Havent drank either of those 2 brands you mentioned for 30 years.

Hope VB is ok in cans.................................................................................Richo.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:15:35 GMT

"Blaylock perpetuates the myth that science-based medicine is not interested in prevention, despite the fact that immunization, which

he opposes, prevents more disease and saves more lives than just about any other medical activity."

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:16:14 GMT

@serendipityricho wrote:
Thats scarey Icy-but wont worry me.
Havent drank either of those 2 brands you mentioned for 30 years.
Hope VB is ok in cans.................................................................................Richo.

probably be safer to switch to stubbies, richo.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

harley_babes_hoard — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:20:04 GMT

here's a novel idea, drink water instead. then you don't have to worry about it

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:20:26 GMT

"He suggests that his supplements can treat and prevent such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. He asserts that his formula

"will maximize your brain’s ability to heal and reduce inflammation." The rest of the scientific community seems oblivious to these

claims, which are not based on large-scale clinical trials. Blaylock also sells hope to cancer patients by encouraging them to believe

he has found the secret to prevention and cure."

The Dr quoted in the OP is a nutter.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

cherry*135 — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:53:44 GMT

I know elderly people who have/had Alzheimers.. I doubt any of them ever drank diet soft drinks out of cans.

There has been concerns about aluminium saucepans for years re Alzheimers.. not sure about that but I don't use them.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

cherry*135 — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:56:06 GMT

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
"He suggests that his supplements can treat and prevent such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. He asserts that his formula

"will maximize your brain’s ability to heal and reduce inflammation." The rest of the scientific community seems oblivious to these

claims, which are not based on large-scale clinical trials. Blaylock also sells hope to cancer patients by encouraging them to believe

he has found the secret to prevention and cure."

The Dr quoted in the OP is a nutter.

Not surprising these 'quacks' always have their own products to sell to prevent/cure what ever they are going on about.

They aren't informing people for the good of the people, just to make money for themselves.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

curmu-curmu — Fri, 15 May 2015 20:25:31 GMT

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

"He suggests that his supplements can treat and prevent such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. He asserts that his formula

"will maximize your brain’s ability to heal and reduce inflammation." The rest of the scientific community seems oblivious to these

claims, which are not based on large-scale clinical trials. Blaylock also sells hope to cancer patients by encouraging them to believe

he has found the secret to prevention and cure."

The Dr quoted in the OP is a nutter.

But wait!!! There's more!

Blaylock has endorsed views inconsistent with the scientific consensus, including that food additives such as aspartame and monosodium glutamate (MSG) are excitotoxic in normal doses and that the H1N1 influenza (swine flu) vaccine carries more risk than swine flu itself.

Blaylock has called the American medical system 'collectivist' and has suggested that health-care reform efforts under President Obama are masterminded by extragovernmental groups that wish to impose euthanasia. He blamed the purported collectivism of American medicine for the retirement of his friend Miguel Faria. According to Blaylock, the former Soviet Union tried to spread collectivism by covertly introducing illegal drugs and various sexually transmitted diseases into the United States. Schwarcz characterized these positions as "conspiracy theories."

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

softail-joanie — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 08:11:25 GMT

Yeah, this has been going on for years, they change the name from aspertiane to something else but it's the same deadly substance. i know diet Coke drinkers who I warned and they believe me, reasearched it themselves but are so addicted to the aspertaine or whatever they are calling it this week, that they can't stop drinking it. This aspertaine is so very addictive that if they did actually stop using it, diet soda drinkers would go into withdraw in droves.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

karliandjacko — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 08:15:16 GMT

@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
here's a novel idea, drink water instead. then you don't have to worry about it

unless the water contains traces of giardia, cryptosporidium or any other nasties.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

zanadoo_56 — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 08:16:09 GMT

I don't know what the replacement chemicals will be like or their effects on people, but I know my system cannot tolerate aspartame or sorbitol so I avoid anything that contains those ingredients.

If I wanted to have anything sweet it seems sugar is a safer option. Who knew?

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:21:40 GMT

@harley_babes_hoard wrote:
here's a novel idea, drink water instead. then you don't have to worry about it

I don't think water can quench a hard- earned- thirst quite the way a VB can, Harley, lol

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

softail-joanie — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:39:27 GMT

Pepsi is the choice of the next generation, didn't it make Michael Jackson's hair catch fire?

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:48:15 GMT

"Besides his anti-vaccination rants, Dr. Blaylock has been active in promoting the unsupported notion that aspartame is a neurotoxin."

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:51:30 GMT

I think I've spotted a few astroturfers:

"Does it scare off genuine community members who have an opposing point of view through violent and aggressive behaviour? Astroturfers incite the irrational and volatile in our community (sometimes using psychosocial tactics) for one reason: to make a lot of noise and drown out opposition."

How To Spot An Astroturfer

@curmu-curmu wrote:

"So not only a nutter - a conspiracy theorist to boot!" and "retards"

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

The Dr quoted in the OP is a nutter.

@am*3 wrote:

"Not surprising these 'quacks' always have their own products to sell to prevent/cure what ever they are going on about.

They aren't informing people for the good of the people, just to make money for themselves.

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:51:58 GMT

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17828671&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

An extensive review of the research on aspartame was published in 2007 and concluded:

The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the

hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on

aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in

which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame

and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive

sweetener."

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:56:18 GMT

Sometimes people just use appropriate adjectives/nouns......

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:01:47 GMT

@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17828671&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

An extensive review of the research on aspartame was published in 2007 and concluded:

The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the

hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on

aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in

which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame

and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive

sweetener."

Yeah right. So why do you think Pepsi are dropping it for "public health concerns".

Oh that's right. Because ppl are voting with their wallets and not buying their product sweetened with toxic substances.

They're actually switching to BOTTLED WATER.

Argggghhhh!

Re: PepsiCo to Drop Aspartame From Diet Pepsi

siggie-reported-by-alarmists — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:06:36 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17828671&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

An extensive review of the research on aspartame was published in 2007 and concluded:

The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the

hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on

aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in

which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame

and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive

sweetener."
Yeah right. So why do you think Pepsi are dropping it for "public health concerns".

Oh that's right. Because ppl are voting with their wallets and not buying their product sweetened with toxic substances.

They're actually switching to BOTTLED WATER.

Argggghhhh!

What people believe, and what is real, are usually two different things.......lol.