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Bill's Budget Reply

ladydeburg — Fri, 15 May 2015 06:13:40 GMT

Not one single thread about it. It went down like a lead balloon and only the hired peanut gallery did the cheering whilst his own benches sat like stunned mullets.

Chris Harcher, the left journo commented "Bill Shorten just made sure he will n ever lead Labor to victory".

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 06:26:54 GMT

I liked it. it showed a bit of vision. The only thing I disagreed with was writing off HECS fees for science students... I thought that if they want to encourage science students then, perhaps they could discount the fees rather than write them off. I thought they upstaged the LNP budget by wanting to work together with the LNP in a bipartisan way for the good of the country. I also liked that they were prepared to further cut tax for small business.

there would be more funding from corporate tax evaders ( I noticed he was able to put a monetary figure on that whereas Hockey refused to, which makes me think the LNP aren't genuine in going after it). Also the extra funding from the tax on high income super

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icyfroth — Fri, 15 May 2015 06:32:39 GMT

It sounded like a beginner's speech at Toastmasters lol

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 06:37:06 GMT

Chris Harcher, the left journo commented "Bill Shorten just made sure he will n ever lead Labor to victory"

who's Chris Hartcher?? surely not this guy??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hartcher

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ladydeburg — Fri, 15 May 2015 08:22:54 GMT

I meant Peter Hartcher

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 08:33:29 GMT

Peter Hartcher is'nt a 'lefty' journo either - he works for Murdoch

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ladydeburg — Fri, 15 May 2015 08:50:05 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
Peter Hartcher is'nt a 'lefty' journo either - he works for Murdoch

I know you're probably busy clapping yourself on the back for your "gotcha" but..........

Peter Hartcher - Comment - smh.com.au

www.smh.com.au › Comment

Peter Hartcher is the political editor and international editor of The Sydney Morning Herald

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:09:40 GMT

is he?? I thought it was herald/Sun

anyway I stand by my post that he's not a lefty journo

perhaps you should have a good look at the abbott/hockey budget

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donnashuggy — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:18:23 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
is he?? I thought it was herald/Sun

anyway I stand by my post that he's not a lefty journo

perhaps you should have a good look at the abbott/hockey budget

He's not a lefty that is for sure, he is one of the better journalists out there I think. He's doing the job he is paid to do.

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:21:00 GMT

Unfortuntely I can't open the links provided here as I'm over my reading limit for the month, but from what I've seen he was critical of abbotts budget too

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donnashuggy — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:23:45 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
Unfortuntely I can't open the links provided here as I'm over my reading limit for the month, but from what I've seen he was critical of abbotts budget too

He's tough on them all, he was very tough on Julia Gillard too. I think there should be more like him as we need to read the negative.

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:30:16 GMT

Yes I agree, I got that impression from what I've been able to see

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ladydeburg — Fri, 15 May 2015 23:11:20 GMT

I beg to differ but he is one of the very virulent left wing journos working today. I guess the reason why most of you like him is because of that very fact.

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ladydeburg — Fri, 15 May 2015 23:16:02 GMT

His comment that : Bill Shorten's budget reply will make sure he never leads Labor to Victory, is true and hit it on the head exactly.

Here we have a leader of Labor telling everybody that things will be so much better under us, we'll give you all so much more, handouts left right and centre, no wonder you all liked his reply but the serious people see that it is a stupid hand out budget and if he goes to the next election with only half of his idiotic largesse he will never win victory.

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 23:19:38 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
It sounded like a beginner's speech at Toastmasters lol

and Hockey sounded like a used car salesman selling a dud

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debra9275 — Fri, 15 May 2015 23:21:03 GMT

@ladydeburg wrote:
I beg to differ but he is one of the very virulent left wing journos working today. I guess the reason why most of you like him is because of that very fact.

I don't particularly like or dislike him, don't know much about him, but if he doesn't work for newscorpse he must be a decent human being

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ladydeburg — Sat, 16 May 2015 00:01:16 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
@ladydeburg wrote:
I beg to differ but he is one of the very virulent left wing journos working today. I guess the reason why most of you like him is because of that very fact.
I don't particularly like or dislike him, don't know much about him, but if he doesn't work for newscorpse he must be a decent human being

says it all really. Don't know him don't read him, don't know anything about him but if he's a Fairfax journo he's fine.

No wonder these boards have deteriorated to the extent that all it is now from the left is snipes, name calling, deliberate misspelling of id's and anything else they don't like.

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debra9275 — Sat, 16 May 2015 00:14:31 GMT

huh?

most journos are fine imo, except the really obviously biased ones

No wonder these boards have deteriorated to the extent that all it is now from the left is snipes, name calling, deliberate misspelling of id's and anything else they don't like.

who is doing that??

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debra9275 — Sat, 16 May 2015 00:28:57 GMT

here's an article by Peter Hartcher this morning where he's pretty much saying he doesn't like any of them

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/bipartisan-convergence-there-is--but-not-on-what-really-matters-for-the-economy-20150515-gh2rah.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-13omn1677-edtrl-other:nnn-17/02/2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o&sa=D&usg=ALhdy28zsr6qiq

This is what happens when you have two weak leaders. A budget of pandering met by a budget-in-reply of yet more pandering. Tony Abbott is so weakened that he has brought down a budget fit for an election year in only the second year of his three-year term.

And Bill Shorten's grip on Australia's hearts and minds is so feeble that he has joined Abbott in a mutual fantasy that doesn't stand the commonsense test.

he doesn't seem to be a leftie journo to me

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monman12 — Sat, 16 May 2015 05:23:21 GMT

"there would be more funding from corporate tax evaders ( I noticed he was able to put a monetary figure on that whereas Hockey refused to, which makes me think the LNP aren't genuine in going after it)"

I would have thought that an ALP limpet might remember (history and pain, sorry) when the ALP last put a monetary figure on perceived forward "funding".

The: " look at what we will get when we tax all those big greedy mining companies", followed by "let's spend it anyway, before we get it"

Result "oh dear" and the annual Swan song which never became a hit, or even eventuated: I promise you a surplus garden, I promise you a surplus garden, I promise you a surplus garden. Whatever.

Hockey would appear to not be so stupidly profligate as to spend before knowing what he might actually receive/have:

"Mr Hockey said the government was ready to move on multinational companies shifting billions in profits overseas, but he would not put a dollar figure on the revenue it may generate.

"We have identified the sums that are being shifted, but identifying the actual amount that is required to be remitted in tax is a different story," Mr Hockey said.

"I am not going to make the same mistake that Labor made and bank money that is not identifiable and bank money that comes from, in [Labor's] case, fake integrity measures."