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Shorten To Face Music Today

icyfroth — Tue, 07 Jul 2015 23:40:18 GMT

Bill Shorten to front royal commission today over deals struck as leader of Australian Workers Union

The commission has been looking into questionable deals between trade unions and employers, some of which took place during Mr Shorten's tenure as head of the Victorian and national branches of the Australian Workers Union (AWU).

He is expected to face questions over deals struck with employers while he was the state secretary of the AWU between 1998 and 2006, including a deal that the commission was told saved a cleaning company $2 million a year but was detrimental to workers.

They included payments of hundreds of thousands of dollars to the union between 2005 and 2008 by construction giant Thiess John Holland, described variously as "donations" or "other receipts" in disclosures to regulators.

The commission heard other examples where invoices from the union were charged for "training" but in fact related to the payment of membership fees, a practice the commission heard was used to boost member numbers.

Entire Article Here

And this man aspires to become the Pime Minister?

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j*oono — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:21:50 GMT

Yes he does. That's why more money is being thrown at yet another royal commission.

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gleee58 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:29:37 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

Bill Shorten to front royal commission today over deals struck as leader of Australian Workers Union

The commission has been looking into questionable deals between trade unions and employers, some of which took place during Mr Shorten's tenure as head of the Victorian and national branches of the Australian Workers Union (AWU).

He is expected to face questions over deals struck with employers while he was the state secretary of the AWU between 1998 and 2006, including a deal that the commission was told saved a cleaning company $2 million a year but was detrimental to workers.

They included payments of hundreds of thousands of dollars to the union between 2005 and 2008 by construction giant Thiess John Holland, described variously as "donations" or "other receipts" in disclosures to regulators.

The commission heard other examples where invoices from the union were charged for "training" but in fact related to the payment of membership fees, a practice the commission heard was used to boost member numbers.

Entire Article Here

And this man aspires to become the Pime Minister?

Why else would he be ordered to front the royal commission? He is a Labor Leader and that's what the royal commissions are about. Their sole purpose is an attempt to smear them. 3 Labor leaders in front of royal commissions, ordered by someone who can't win without a dirty fight.

It's telling that at the time the deals were done they were lauded by those that would now cheer on his appearance at the royal commission over deals they described as good a few years ago.

So, what is this ":music" he has to face and why is it cause to celebrate?

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icyfroth — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:31:28 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
Yes he does. That's why more money is being thrown at yet another royal commission.

Oh yes that's right. Ms Gillard, previous Labor Minister also aspired to be PM and even succeeded. For short term. She went through some Union related enquiry too didn't she? ACCC thingy, wasn't it?

And there was that Craig Thomson thing, too.

Must be some sort of ALP thing.

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debra9275 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:35:22 GMT

Nah it's an LNP thing to try and get labor leaders on something, anything... Most notable person caught in these RC's is Kathy jackson

I wonder how much each RC costs taxpayers?

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j*oono — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:43:24 GMT

Well perhaps when the ALP are back in power they can call a royal commission to determine whether former ministers were complicit in hiding crimes involving child abuse and perhaps even being an accessory after the fact.

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debra9275 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:44:51 GMT

I hope so Joono.

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gleee58 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:46:03 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
Yes he does. That's why more money is being thrown at yet another royal commission.
Oh yes that's right. Ms Gillard, previous Labor Minister also aspired to be PM and even succeeded. For short term. She went through some Union related enquiry too didn't she? ACCC thingy, wasn't it?
And there was that Craig Thomson thing, too.

Must be some sort of ALP thing.

No, Gillard was ordered to appear before the same royal commission that Shorten is now fronting.

And no, contrary to what the newscorpse reports suggest, Thomson was found guilty of spending ($20,000 on trivial items over 5 years) on his unions credit card (that should have been sorted by the office manager). There was not found to be any expenditure at brothels.

No, it's not an ALP thing. It's an Abbott thing. Smear the opponents to better his chances at the next election. He only knows how to fight dirty and is a compulsive liar.

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moonflyte — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:50:14 GMT

The RC asked the union for all invoices pertaining to companies being forced to pay union fees for thousands of phantom and real employees. Guess what?? the union has lost all those invoices and records.

Dog ate my homework?? Bill will slither his way out of this just like everything else he's done through his corrupt union life.

But wait, there's more, here we are faced with a Bill type union rousing rant in a pub last night? sent to the ABC for nationwide airing.

I wonder what would happen if Abbott sunk that low?

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icyfroth — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:57:08 GMT

@djlukjilly wrote:
The RC asked the union for all invoices pertaining to companies being forced to pay union fees for thousands of phantom and real employees. Guess what?? the union has lost all those invoices and records.

Dog ate my homework?? Bill will slither his way out of this just like everything else he's done through his corrupt union life.

But wait, there's more, here we are faced with a Bill type union rousing rant in a pub last night? sent to the ABC for nationwide airing.

I wonder what would happen if Abbott sunk that low?

It would be all on board:

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j*oono — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:19:03 GMT

Aren't you going to show it djlukjilly?

[video]

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icyfroth — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:27:56 GMT

'people can organise to have a strong minimum wage and will not be subject to a royal commission'.

The government sets the minimum wage

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youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:28:05 GMT

How embarrassing.

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debra9275 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:38:35 GMT

Joono, was that filmed at just some random pub??

pretty enthusiastic crowd

I would like to see a RC held into all political donations to all parties, of mining companies , big business and mafia doantions and any with vested interests

Until that happens I just can't take this stuff seriously.

Except for Kathy Jackson Icyfroth. she has outraged me

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tezza2844 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 02:15:51 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
Yes he does. That's why more money is being thrown at yet another royal commission.
Oh yes that's right. Ms Gillard, previous Labor Minister also aspired to be PM and even succeeded. For short term. She went through some Union related enquiry too didn't she? ACCC thingy, wasn't it?
And there was that Craig Thomson thing, too.

Must be some sort of ALP thing.

Is this the same Royal Commission that failed to question Kathy Jackson about the hundreds of thousands of Union members monies that she is now being pursued thro the courts. It appears the "union " friends of LNP government are getting a easy run before this Abbott Government appointed and run RC. Abbott is also giving a running commentary of Shortens appearance, something he appeared not to do when Kathy Jackson was appearing.

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 03:17:35 GMT

oh dear.........

time for a lunch break

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/07/08/live-blog--shorten-fronts-royal-commission.html#livestream

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gleee58 — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:01:34 GMT

@djlukjilly wrote:
The RC asked the union for all invoices pertaining to companies being forced to pay union fees for thousands of phantom and real employees. Guess what?? the union has lost all those invoices and records.

Dog ate my homework?? Bill will slither his way out of this just like everything else he's done through his corrupt union life.

But wait, there's more, here we are faced with a Bill type union rousing rant in a pub last night? sent to the ABC for nationwide airing.

I wonder what would happen if Abbott sunk that low?

Like the time he wandered into a "random" pub and skolled a beer?

A lot of them on all sides seem to like the meet and chat at the pub events. They usually send an email out to let people know they will be there to meet members of the community.

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icyfroth — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:34:58 GMT

he'll probably plead "can't remember" or I was young and naive"

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the_great_she_elephant — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 06:35:17 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
Nah it's an LNP thing to try and get labor leaders on something, anything... Most notable person caught in these RC's is Kathy jackson

I wonder how much each RC costs taxpayers?

Thinkof the money they could have saved if they'd just asked Icy's opinion and run with that.

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icyfroth — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 06:38:58 GMT