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Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

icyfroth — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 02:45:48 GMT

Planned Parenthood scam shows us evil has a way of creeping into the world | Daily Telegraph Miranda Devine Blog

THE gargoyle witches of Grimm’s fairytales, who kidnapped children and fattened them up to eat, served the purpose of warning tender hearts about the evil ever-present in our world.

As adults we still treat evil as the realm of alien monsters, consoling ourselves with the fiction that the butchers of Islamic State or Nazism or communism are not fully human, with people who love them and lives of normality outside their vile deeds.

Hitler, for instance, was a vegetarian who cared deeply about the welfare of animals.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn once wrote that the line separating good from evil “passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart”.

In other words, all of us are capable of evil. It may be easier to think of evil as something foreign to ourselves. But it has a way of creeping into every complacent society, through every complicit heart.

Take the grotesque practices of one of the world’s largest abortion providers, Planned Parenthood, exposed in an undercover sting as selling the livers, brains and hearts of aborted babies for $30 to $100 a pop.

This secretive traffic in foetal body parts is a global business, and it occurs in Australia. Rare detail is found in a 2003 article in the Medical Journal of Australia, titled, “Use of human foetal ?tissue for biomedical research in Australia”.

Alarmed by the prospect of similar abuses here, the Australian Christian Lobby has called on parliament to “investigate the use and possible sale of human foetal tissue”.

Then there is the not inconsiderable matter of taxpayer funding of the International Planned Parenthood Federation: $651,801 for “core funding to strategic plan (Asia)”, $769,800 “Contribution to IPPF (global)” and $30 million to “Pacific Regional Partnerships for Reproductive Health Program (Pacific)”.

But the response of the government is just business as usual.

“These allegations … do not relate to DFAT’s funding of International Planned Parenthood Federation,” a spokesperson for the Department of Foreign Affairs said yesterday.

“DFAT contributes funding to IPPF as part of the global effort to reduce the unmet need for quality reproductive health care services in developing countries … IPPF must ensure its activities comply with the relevant country’s laws, including in relation to abortion”.

Sorry, that’s not good enough.

If the live cattle trade can be shut down overnight on the strength of undercover videos taken by animal rights activists, at the every least our government should review its funding of Planned Parenthood’s international affiliate, and seek assurances that foetal body parts are not being sold off.

Our consciences cannot remain forever anaesthetised to evil done in our name.

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I wonder if those "My Body, My Decision" ppl are aware of what happens, and whether they care.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

tasfleur — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:16:52 GMT

Not going to speak for anyone else, but this whole scenario needs a stronger word, if there is one, than evil.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

this-one-time-at-bandcamp — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:25:15 GMT

Before leaping willy-nilly onto the right-wing band wagon, you really should take the time to investigate the allegations............

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

tasfleur — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:52:38 GMT

I don't even know what a "right-wing band wagon" means or is, so that kind of catagorising means nothing to me.

However, I have been watching this issue as it emerges from several sources, and regardless of what anyone else thinks about it (as is their right to have and make their opinions and comments) my opinion is that it really does show just how far some humans are prepared to go for money.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

this-one-time-at-bandcamp — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:56:57 GMT

You do realize the funds proffered do no more than cover delivery expenses, right.........? No body is going to get rich from a $30 heart........and I have little doubt that the "several sources" are all pro-life organizations........

OHSU collected almost a half-million dollars from my insurance company for transplanting a cadaver's heart into my chest...........should we condemn them too?

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

tasfleur — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:02:22 GMT

The sources I've been watching are not from pro-life organisations, not that I have any bias against them or their adversaries ....

I think it's wonderful that you are a recipient of a heart transplant, but that's not what this topic is about, it's a whole different subject matter.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

gleee58 — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:01:59 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

I wonder if those "My Body, My Decision" ppl are aware of what happens, and whether they care.

Yes, I'd rather see aborted foetus used for research than thrown in the rubbish like miscarried babies were in the past.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

morgana2408 — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:04:49 GMT

There is two videos, one has been edited to twist things around and does not give the full view of the picture. There isn't any profiting, the money is covering costs.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:06:46 GMT

have you watched the whole, unedited video?

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tasfleur — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:09:43 GMT

I think I'll just sit back and watch this discussion and not contribute to it further .. the subject is a very emotional one and may cause heated division, losing its way instead of staying on a rational track.

Interested to know and see how folks feel xx

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Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:10:39 GMT

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:18:32 GMT

@morgana2408 wrote:
There is two videos, one has been edited to twist things around and does not give the full view of the picture. There isn't any profiting, the money is covering costs.

have you watched both videos?

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

this-one-time-at-bandcamp — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:20:46 GMT

it's a whole different subject matter.

No it's not.........it's about the use, for science, of otherwise wasted body parts........

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:35:20 GMT

here are the transcripts:

http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/

can you fill in the edited parts?

and yes i know the cmp is an anti-abortion

organisation.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

tasfleur — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:40:07 GMT

this-one-time-at-ba...... perhaps we can agree to disagree agreeably xxx

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:48:02 GMT

some of the content in those transcripts

is sickening

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

morgana2408 — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:51:14 GMT

yep and read articles including the one posted earlier.

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

the_great_she_elephant — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:55:54 GMT

I think women seeking an abortion should be informed that foetal material may be used for medical research and I think women should have the right to withhold permission. Other than that I simply can't see what all the fuss is about. It reminds me a bit of those alarmist articles that used to appear when organ donation first became viable - the dire warnings that it would lead to patients would be declared dead prematurely so their organs could be harvested "fresh"

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

morgana2408 — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:05:56 GMT

In the other version it cuts out the mention of covering costs, it's sounds more for profit. If you go on you tube I there are four different versions posted at the moment

Re: Planned Parenthood Scam Shows Us Evil

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:14:01 GMT

@morgana2408 wrote:
yep and read articles including the one posted earlier.

so do you believe that proper consent

is obtained from patients?

i'm not so clear on that from reading the

transcript. what is your opinion?