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another unarmed black man murdered

wilk1149 — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:05:19 GMT

By a white police officer.
This time implicated by his own camera.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:46:52 GMT

Do you mean the one with the driver who couldn't produce a licence, or any ID at all? The one where the guy mumbled and double talked? The one with the guy driving without a licence tag on his car? The one where the guy decided he had enough and struggled with the officer and decided he was just going to leave?

Yeah, my heart's breaking.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

*pepe — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:59:02 GMT

he didn't deserve to be killed.

the cop did deserve to be indicted for murder though and for once it actualy happened.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

i-need-a-martini — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:10:48 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
Do you mean the one with the driver who couldn't produce a licence, or any ID at all? The one where the guy mumbled and double talked? The one with the guy driving without a licence tag on his car? The one where the guy decided he had enough and struggled with the officer and decided he was just going to leave?

Yeah, my heart's breaking.

Wilks is probably talking about the Tensing case currently being tried at the moment. You know the one where the white police officer shoots the black man in the car who still has his seatbelt on. Is there another?

Either way, do you seriously believe a person can be murdered for any of that??

Your heart SHOULD be breaking at the taking of another persons life so senselessly.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:03:07 GMT

You're rude and that should break your heart.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

lionrose.7 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:04:10 GMT

I cant believe how many black people who have been killed by the police, why not use a taser why a gun.

The Video's are the proof, some of those guys should never have made it into the police force

My niece who lives in America said on Face book today she was frightened of the police, how sad is this, we were always taught if you are in trouble go to a policeman.

In this day and age so sad that the Black man does not have equal rights when it comes to the police.

drivings with out a licence is not a death penalty in any country

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

lurker172602 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:31:01 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
Do you mean the one with the driver who couldn't produce a licence, or any ID at all? The one where the guy mumbled and double talked? The one with the guy driving without a licence tag on his car? The one where the guy decided he had enough and struggled with the officer and decided he was just going to leave?

Yeah, my heart's breaking.

Can you enlighten us as to which of those offences carry the death penalty?

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

j*oono — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:04:30 GMT

Samuel DeBose was trying to get away because it seems he didn't have a licence.

You're not supposed to get shot in the head for that.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:07:38 GMT

To say he was shot in the head for not having a licence is plain stupid.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

*pepe — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:11:34 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
To say he was shot in the head for not having a licence is plain stupid.

not as stupid as actually shooting him in the head for not having his licence on him....

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

bushies.girl — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:11:58 GMT

Gun happy Americans 😞

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

j*oono — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:14:44 GMT

Yes it is stupid that he was shot in the head, so says Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.

He also says that DeBose did nothing violent towards the officer. He says that this does not happen in America, but it did.

He also says that the police officer was not dragged or knocked down by the car. He just fell backwards when he shot the guy in the head.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:17:02 GMT

@*pepe wrote:
@jimmy*part3 wrote:
To say he was shot in the head for not having a licence is plain stupid.
not as stupid as actually shooting him in the head for not having his licence on him....

Not as stupid as driving with an open bottle, no licence, no tag, then fight a cop and expect to just drive off. His fault.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:23:00 GMT

@j*oono wrote:
Yes it is stupid that he was shot in the head, so says Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.

He also says that DeBose did nothing violent towards the officer. He says that this does not happen in America, but it did.
He also says that the police officer was not dragged or knocked down by the car. He just fell backwards when he shot the guy in the head.

Fact is people need to listen when a cop says step out of the car. It's that simple and there should be no discussion after that. All that does is make more people think they can disobey a cops order. Right, lets make it easy for criminals.

Me, I carry my ID and make sure I'm legal and if a cop pulls me over...I comply. No problems period.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

*pepe — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:26:03 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
Yes it is stupid that he was shot in the head, so says Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.

He also says that DeBose did nothing violent towards the officer. He says that this does not happen in America, but it did.
He also says that the police officer was not dragged or knocked down by the car. He just fell backwards when he shot the guy in the head.

Fact is people need to listen when a cop says step out of the car. It's that simple and there should be no discussion after that. All that does is make more people think they can disobey a cops order. Right, lets make it easy for criminals.

Me, I carry my ID and make sure I'm legal and if a cop pulls me over...I comply. No problems period.

disobedience is not punishable by death.

cops are not there to dish out punishment - its time they learned that and people like you who justify these murders are part of the problem.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

jimmy*part4 — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:35:03 GMT

@*pepe wrote:
@jimmy*part3 wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
Yes it is stupid that he was shot in the head, so says Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.

He also says that DeBose did nothing violent towards the officer. He says that this does not happen in America, but it did.
He also says that the police officer was not dragged or knocked down by the car. He just fell backwards when he shot the guy in the head.

Fact is people need to listen when a cop says step out of the car. It's that simple and there should be no discussion after that. All that does is make more people think they can disobey a cops order. Right, lets make it easy for criminals.

Me, I carry my ID and make sure I'm legal and if a cop pulls me over...I comply. No problems period.
disobedience is not punishable by death.

cops are not there to dish out punishment - its time they learned that and people like you who justify these murders are part of the problem.

Back to that again? It took all of one second to escalate. Did he intentionally shot the guy in the head? It might have went off in the struggle or when he slipped. So. He shouldn't have fought the officer. In what world can you fight with a cop and drive off?

So far, my opinion...it went off when he slipped. But again...why wouldn't the guy step out of the car? Because he didn't feel like it. Usually when someone can't produce ID is when they have a warrant.

So no death penality. He was killed fighting a cop.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

j*oono — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:42:31 GMT

This is a bit long but it's interesting listening to a few minutes of it and to read the comments. There are plenty of people with the same attitude as Jimmy and some otherwise.

It's the county prosecutor discussing the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSfVk-tqug

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

*pepe — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:43:13 GMT

there was no need for the cop to even draw his gun let alone fire it, his life was not threatened in any way, in fact it is stated that if he was at risk of harm it was because he reached into the car, something they are trained NOT to do because it not only puts them at risk of injury but escalates the need for force.

nobody is saying the driver didn't do the wrong thing, just saying he did not deserve to be murdered for it.

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:44:44 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
Do you mean the one with the driver who couldn't produce a licence, or any ID at all? The one where the guy mumbled and double talked? The one with the guy driving without a licence tag on his car? The one where the guy decided he had enough and struggled with the officer and decided he was just going to leave?

Yeah, my heart's breaking.

Are any of those capital offences?

Re: another unarmed black man murdered

youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:52:26 GMT

@jimmy*part3 wrote:
@*pepe wrote:
@jimmy*part3 wrote:
@j*oono wrote:
Yes it is stupid that he was shot in the head, so says Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.

He also says that DeBose did nothing violent towards the officer. He says that this does not happen in America, but it did.
He also says that the police officer was not dragged or knocked down by the car. He just fell backwards when he shot the guy in the head.

Fact is people need to listen when a cop says step out of the car. It's that simple and there should be no discussion after that. All that does is make more people think they can disobey a cops order. Right, lets make it easy for criminals.

Me, I carry my ID and make sure I'm legal and if a cop pulls me over...I comply. No problems period.
disobedience is not punishable by death.

cops are not there to dish out punishment - its time they learned that and people like you who justify these murders are part of the problem.
Back to that again? It took all of one second to escalate. Did he intentionally shot the guy in the head? It might have went off in the struggle or when he slipped. So. He shouldn't have fought the officer. In what world can you fight with a cop and drive off?

So far, my opinion...it went off when he slipped. But again...why wouldn't the guy step out of the car? Because he didn't feel like it. Usually when someone can't produce ID is when they have a warrant.

So no death penality. He was killed fighting a cop.

I must be looking at this from another planet- you write 'he was killed fighting a cop' when did he fight the cop?

Why did the policeman even have his gun out?

I would have thought disobedience to be a misdemeanour?