topic Re: I wonder in Community Spirit

I wonder

kilroy_is_here — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 08:28:21 GMT

If all those who supported unfettered immigration and open door policy would now like to ring and apologise to the family of the latest terrorist attack victim

Re: I wonder

opmania — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 08:35:51 GMT

They wont ever change their mind

Not until more Australians have

Been killed by terrorists than Australians

Or brits have been killed by yankees

In the war of independance

Or tsunamis earthquakes and

The plague combined have killed

More christians than terrorists

Re: I wonder

the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 09:20:24 GMT

When one Australian is killed every week by terrorist activity and one in every three Australians suffers physical or mental trauma as a result of terrorism, then I shall become seriously alarmed

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/story-fneszs56-1227134136506

When 119 Australians die in a single month as a result of terrorism, then I may start to panic.

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road_deaths_australia_monthly_bulletins.aspx

In the meantime I shall be alert but not alarmed and grieve with the family of the young policeman killed in Parramatta and the families of all public officers killed in the line of duty by criminal thugs.

Re: I wonder

opmania — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 09:43:42 GMT

Thats prerty much what I said

Re: I wonder

the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 09:47:54 GMT

Yep you beat me to it. You posted while I was still hunting down the relevant links.

Re: I wonder

kilroy_is_here — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:37:00 GMT

1 Australian killed is to many for me as I bet it is for the poor family grieving their loss

Re: I wonder

moonflyte — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 23:28:04 GMT

If 14 year old boys can be turned into terrorists, murder innocent people walking down the street or going about their daily work, then we should all be worried. There's no defence against it.

Re: I wonder

the_great_she_elephant — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 01:58:54 GMT

Any senseless murder is horrific and should cause deep concern - and when that murder is carried out by a teenager it is even more worrying; but does the motive make the murder any more or less horrific?

Is the murder of Curtis Cheng any more shocking than that of David Auchterlonie?

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/australian-teen-killers-matt-milat-and-cohen-klein-were-born-bad/story-e6frfmyi-1227208958579

Is Mr Cheng somehow more dead than Pirjo Kemppainen, a 63-year-old retired nurse, murdered in her own home by two 14 year old boys?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/boys-gone-bad/story-e6frg8h6-1226763676176

Is a radicalised Muslim teenager who shoots a man outside a police station a more frightening murderer than a sexually jealous teenager who stabs a girl in front of all her classmates?

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/vicky-groves-killer-to-be-released-after-22-years-in-jail/story-fnhocxo3-1226780823281

Murder is murder - the motive may vary but the end result is just as terrible andjust as worryingl. Suggesting, as the OP does, that we should demonise an entire section of our community fover the actions of one15 year old boy is pure paranoia. You might as well argue that all teenagers should be locked up in detention centres till they turn 20.

Re: I wonder

kilroy_is_here — Sun, 04 Oct 2015 02:35:49 GMT

Yes unfortunately it is , as very Rarely do the other murders inspire others to take up the sword , if we except this as an inevitable part of our life , we give justice and propriety to their aims , we must never allow crimes of religion or politics become the norm or acceptable as , if we do we will allow our society to descend into the chaos that is the survival of the fittest

Re: I wonder

moonflyte — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:47:27 GMT

Well said and I agree 100% and not demonising a whole religion as I was accused of.