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Manus to Cambodia to.....

lloydslights — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:17:36 GMT

One of four refugees transferred to Cambodia as part of an arrangement costing the Australian Government at least $55 million has reportedly returned to Burma.

Three Iranians and the Burmese man left Nauru in May and landed in Phnom Penh a month later.

The Cambodia Daily newspaper reported the ethnic Rohingya man was scheduled to fly out of Cambodia on Sunday after asking to leave last month.

The Cambodian government reportedly said the man asked to go because he was homesick.

Australia is giving the Cambodian government $40 million in extra aid after it agreed to take refugees who tried to reach Australia by boat.

The Government is also paying $15.5 million to the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) to support the refugees who move there.

"Unfortunately, IOM can't discuss the case due to confidentiality principles, as well as the direct request of the client," they said.

"He has specifically asked IOM not to make any statements to the media regarding his case."

Greens immigration spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young slammed the Australia-Cambodia arrangement as a waste of taxpayers' money.

"$55 million is a very expensive plane ticket for these four people simply to dump them back in the Asia-Pacific," Senator Hanson-Young said.

"The money that Australia has paid that country is a bribe so that people can simply be sent there and dumped there and so the Australian Government doesn't have to look after them," she said.

"This isn't a solution, this is a waste of money and unfortunately we're playing with the lives of refugees."

The group was taken to an Australian-funded villa after arriving in Phnom Penh in June and promised language training and other assistance.

The Government has previously said it was confident Cambodia would resettle more than the initial four, and has said negotiations are underway to find other countries that will take refugees.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-16/refugee-transferred-to-cambodia-returns-home-to-burma-reports/6858876

Info on International Organisation for Migrants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Migration

I am interested in this story. But I do have some doubt about certain aspects - as I do with most ABC news articles these days, unfortunately.

Ms Hanson-Young's statement which appears to include the $15.5million to IMO, implies that the money is only for this programme.

Is the former asylum seeker, moving back to Burma permanently?

DEB

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lurker172602 — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:19:54 GMT

Three Iranians and the Burmese man left Nauru in May and landed in Phnom Penh a month later.

Why did it take a month? Where were they during that time?

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lloydslights — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:24:18 GMT

That is one of the examples in the article that is questionable.

1. Did they leave on 31st May and Arrive 1st June = a month later or the next month?

2. Did they take a scenic route?

3. Did they, in fact, have to row?

DEB

Re: Manus to Cambodia to.....

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:35:30 GMT

@lurker172602 wrote:

Three Iranians and the Burmese man left Nauru in May and landed in Phnom Penh a month later.

Why did it take a month? Where were they during that time?

in australia - according to unofficial

reports.

Refugees have been secretly flown from Nauru to an undisclosed location in Australia, where they will stay until their resettlement in Cambodia is approved by the Phnom Penh government, according to refugees still on the Pacific island.

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Anonymous — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:38:08 GMT

Four refugees who are due to be resettled in Cambodia were flown to Darwin from Australia’s detention centre on Nauru over the weekend and are being housed in an immigration facility near the airport, a refugee advocate has said.

The Post first reported yesterday that the refugees had been flown to Australia in secret, without Australian immigration notifying their Cambodian counterparts, which was later confirmed to Australian media by a refugee advocate in Darwin.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/refugees-darwin-report-says

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lloydslights — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:41:03 GMT

Just found this from May 2015: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-13/asylum-seekers-en-route-to-cambodia-flown-to-darwin/6467710

Realized that direct flights from Nauru to Cambodia are not available.

Oops, Julia has beaten me to it.

DEB

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lloydslights — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:47:02 GMT

In each of those articles that Julia and I presented, there appears to be some dubious "secrets" comments attributed to refugee advocates.

DEB

Re: Manus to Cambodia to.....

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:53:28 GMT

yes, i noticed that.

seems to be a common thing with them.

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moonflyte — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:42:39 GMT

They have an agenda and they are ably abetted by Miss SHY.

I believe the extra money was for topping up the aid we already give to Cambodia and not the cost of 3 or 4 illegal immigrants taken there.

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moonflyte — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:00:49 GMT

A multi million state of the art detention centre was built in Darwin at the height of the crash of our border policy under Gillard and Rubb. It cost millions.

What a legacy they left behind and now we are left to clean it up.

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moonflyte — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 00:04:14 GMT

@lloydslights wrote:
One of four refugees transferred to Cambodia as part of an arrangement costing the Australian Government at least $55 million has reportedly returned to Burma.

Three Iranians and the Burmese man left Nauru in May and landed in Phnom Penh a month later.

The Cambodia Daily newspaper reported the ethnic Rohingya man was scheduled to fly out of Cambodia on Sunday after asking to leave last month.

The Cambodian government reportedly said the man asked to go because he was homesick.

Australia is giving the Cambodian government $40 million in extra aid after it agreed to take refugees who tried to reach Australia by boat.

The Government is also paying $15.5 million to the International Organisation for Migration (IOM) to support the refugees who move there.

"Unfortunately, IOM can't discuss the case due to confidentiality principles, as well as the direct request of the client," they said.

"He has specifically asked IOM not to make any statements to the media regarding his case."

Greens immigration spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young slammed the Australia-Cambodia arrangement as a waste of taxpayers' money.

"$55 million is a very expensive plane ticket for these four people simply to dump them back in the Asia-Pacific," Senator Hanson-Young said.

"The money that Australia has paid that country is a bribe so that people can simply be sent there and dumped there and so the Australian Government doesn't have to look after them," she said.

"This isn't a solution, this is a waste of money and unfortunately we're playing with the lives of refugees."

The group was taken to an Australian-funded villa after arriving in Phnom Penh in June and promised language training and other assistance.

The Government has previously said it was confident Cambodia would resettle more than the initial four, and has said negotiations are underway to find other countries that will take refugees.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-16/refugee-transferred-to-cambodia-returns-home-to-burma-reports/6858876

Info on International Organisation for Migrants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Migration

I am interested in this story. But I do have some doubt about certain aspects - as I do with most ABC news articles these days, unfortunately.

Ms Hanson-Young's statement which appears to include the $15.5million to IMO, implies that the money is only for this programme.

Is the former asylum seeker, moving back to Burma permanently?

DEB

Anything Miss SHY spouts is not believable. Remember when we watched those poor people being dashed on rocks and dying in front of our eyes at Christmas island? Miss SHY said "accidents happen" not a tear was shed. She's a hypocrite of the highest order.

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kilroy_is_here — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:22:41 GMT

The point being missed here is he flew back to the country he claimed to be fleeing persecution, which proves he is either suicidal or was lying about being a refugee in the first place, as to the greens to me 15mil in aid if it stops the flow of economic refugees trying to come here is money well spent

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:00:11 GMT

Yes, that is another shortfall in the story. From the original news source: the man had all required travel documents

Only mentioned homesick. Holiday to see the relos? Helping the family to pack for them all to return to Cambodia. Or going back permanently?

DEB

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myoclon1cjerk — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:02:19 GMT

They should have stopped the flow of economic refugees after WWIIL.Our cities wouldnt be so overcrowded and Australia would be a veritable paradise,populated by decent,right winged,god fearin' white folk.

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:07:32 GMT

Now, that's an enterprising idea!

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myoclon1cjerk — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:21:55 GMT

That's all I gotta say on the matter.Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to clean mah shootin' arn.I gots me some cute,defenseless animals to kill over the weekend.

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:41:53 GMT

Make sure the target is identified correctly. And it really should have been cleaned after returning from the last hunt.

DEB

Re: Manus to Cambodia to.....

myoclon1cjerk — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:50:58 GMT

Gotcha 😉

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kilroy_is_here — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:21:46 GMT

Difference being they were invited to come and came through proper channels , the current immigration problem is a direct result of the Vietnam war and the agreement signed to deal with boat people from then , so 2 entirely different situations, but let's not let the facts get in the way of making excuses to call people racist or red necks to try and intimidate them into not speaking out

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moonflyte — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:01:39 GMT

I agree and no matter how he phrased it he is calling us, and anybody else who disagrees with him racist, bigots, rednecks and all other manner of vilification which is a violation.