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Shorten Flails as Turnbull Nails

icyfroth — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 01:29:01 GMT

In case Labor leader Bill Shorten had forgotten the cool, logical ruthlessness of his political opponent Malcolm Turnbull, he was given a sharp, painful reminder in a pivotal parliamentary exchange that gives Labor a glimpse of the hot hell that awaits it in the lead up to the next election.

Turnbull – the man who famously humiliated the British government as a young lawyer before he'd even conceived of starting his own bank or making a fortune out of something called the internet – quite simply wiped the floor with Labor.

There was no thundering refutations or excessive flourishes of oratory from Turnbull. Instead it was calm, reasoned and apparently honest response from Turnbull who had clearly put more thought to the questions of transparency and conflict of interest than Labor, which showed its own transparency in an altogether unflattering light.

Within the space of an hour, Turnbull called out Shorten as a cowardly leader by delegating the dirty work of smear politics to his subordinates, his shadow assistant treasurer and former university economist Andrew Leigh as a man who'd compromised his convictions in the name of politics, and Labor as a party uncomfortable with the concept of private enterprise.

Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/shorten-flails-as-turnbull-nails-the-politics-of-envy-20151015-gk9n3e#ixzz3ogmuPxnj

"If the honourable member (Mr Burke) wants to go round wearing a sandwich board saying `Malcolm Turnbull's got a lot of money' feel free - I think people know that I've got a lot of money," he said.

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 01:40:47 GMT

Hiya Icy.

The whole of drama of Cayman Island "banking" has come a bit unstuck following the accusations thrown towards Mr Turnbull's banking history.

It appears that superannuation funds and even some Labor Ministers have funds in similar vaults.

DEB

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icyfroth — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:01:36 GMT

I guess that's what happens to glass house dwellers who throw stones lol

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donnashuggy — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:16:18 GMT

What I find odd is that nobody appeared to attack Rudds wife. It is very embarrassing for Labor.

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:55:18 GMT

As I recall, Mr Rudd and Therese Rein sold company/shares in an employment agency, so that it would appear that there would be no conflicts of interest at the time of his Prime Ministership chase.

And yes, I agree it would be embarrassing but a learning experience surely, to get correct back-up information before making accusations.

Dare I say, all politicians should gather accurate information and an understanding knowledge of the subject, prior to publicity-seeking headlines.

DEB

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myoclon1cjerk — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:14:32 GMT

Meanwhile Malcolm 'We don't work for big business' Turnbull,

The government will not proceed with proposed tax disclosure laws, which means around 800 private companies will not have to publish details of their taxable income and the amount of they pay.
The changes were pushed through the Senate last night and are a blow to transparency, according to the Labor Party and the Tax Justice Network.
However Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull hit back at Labor during Question Time yesterday, according to Fairfax
, saying the tax disclosure laws were discriminatory towards “medium-sized” companies.
This is despite the fact that many of the companies affected by the tax disclosure rules are owned or founded by individuals on the BRWRich List.

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lloydslights — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:34:12 GMT

Tax Justice Network. An Advocacy Group

From their Website - We draw on our collective expertise to research, design and push original new agenda-setting positions. We seek to be ‘beserkers,’ opening up new spaces for others to enter......challenge conventional wisdom, we relish lively debate, and our work gets media attention. We can quickly take positions on current news and issues, without needing long stakeholder consultation.

I wonder if they are the same company that researched Mr Turnbull's (and some ALPmembers, superannuation funds) Cayman Island vault.

DEB

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monman12 — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:43:52 GMT

LS: "Dare I say, all politicians should gather accurate information and an understanding knowledge of the subject, prior to publicity-seeking headlines."

I do agree LS, however I would direct that suggestion at a few CS contributors, when it concerns economics.

"The government will not proceed with proposed tax disclosure laws, which means around 800 private companies will not have to publish details of their taxable income and the amount of they pay."

They actually do disclose their annual income, to the ATO.

"amount of they pay" ??

How about trade unions are removed from tax exempt status?

How about trade unions and their executives publish their annual financial statements.

If you want a PRIVATE company to reveal all, let us have all private returns open for viewiing.

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moonflyte — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:30:25 GMT

Morning icy,

An exquisite riposte and B.S. Shorten could only sit there and swallow it.

Now we are seeing the unions amalgamating to garner even more power to bring down a Conservative party and to make sure a Conservative party never gets elected again. It's frightening and alarming.

Re: Shorten Flails as Turnbull Nails

moonflyte — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:31:07 GMT

@lloydslights wrote:
Hiya Icy.

The whole of drama of Cayman Island "banking" has come a bit unstuck following the accusations thrown towards Mr Turnbull's banking history.

It appears that superannuation funds and even some Labor Ministers have funds in similar vaults.

DEB

Even the left wing talking heads are ashamed at the antics of the Labor party.

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moonflyte — Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:51:29 GMT

Looks like the RC is slowly drawing the net tighter on B.S.Shortens criminal doings in his previous life as a union heavy.

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icyfroth — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:43:48 GMT

I think Mr Potatohead will end up as mash p'taters. Who'd vote in that Dorkwald?

Oh hang on.....I know who

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moonflyte — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 01:06:22 GMT

I’d like to see that stupid smile wiped off his dial.

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icyfroth — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 01:08:27 GMT

I think the Turc will do that

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debra9275 — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 02:56:36 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:
I think Mr Potatohead will end up as mash p'taters. Who'd vote in that Dorkwald?

Oh hang on.....I know who

Mr Dutton???I've noticed lots of people call him Mr Potatohead

I wonder why??

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icyfroth — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 09:58:33 GMT

I wonder why too.

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myoclon1cjerk — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 11:04:15 GMT

Peter Dutton.Peter Dutton.Oh yes.Here's a message for you Peter.

http://on.fb.me/1LuHHs3

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icyfroth — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:32:22 GMT

off topic

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moonflyte — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:43:55 GMT

The latest Ipsos poll is dire for Labor and Bill. I wonder what distraction they'll start this week to take the heat off themselves.

The Cayman Island attack was to take the public eye off the RC that is looking at Shorten and it's not looking good.

What on earth is Labor thinking, class war, politics of envy, is that all they've got? they did that under Gillard. Nobody mentioned the multi million dollar Rudd did they.

Every Monday they come up with some stupid attack that leaves them looking incompetent and stupid and the media run with it.

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moonflyte — Sun, 18 Oct 2015 22:56:38 GMT

This phony man has to go. His grubby climb to the top is littered with dirty deals.

The effrontery of this hollow man is staggering, he borrowed a private jet to do his politicking on the bodies of trapped miners.

He must never become PM no matter how much he wants it. He will be gone after the next election, he's unelectable.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/bill-shortens-trade-union-past-a-growing-threat/story-e6frg6z6-1227572160451