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Thoughts on Maddie McCann

donnashuggy — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:48:12 GMT

I just read this and tend to agree with some of the points Katie Hopkins has raised.

Would never leave my child and go out to dinner, to do it in a foreign country is just not something I could imagine doing.

http://startsatsixty.com.au/current-affairs/news/the-controversial-opinion-about-little-maddie-mccann

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imastawka — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:56:05 GMT

I blamed her parents as soon as I heard about it.

How could they go out to dinner and leave three young children alone?

Remember, there were twins younger than Maddie there as well.

Kids can wake up and panic, or hurt themselves while unattended.

Forget being abducted.

I don't care that they were only 2 minutes away.

Don't know why that opinion was not allowed to be publicised.

“Maddie wasn’t lost because someone took her. She was lost because she was left to be found”,

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donnashuggy — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:59:12 GMT

Seems to be the bottom line doesn't it. There is a fantastic show I have been watching on Foxtel based on the story, absolutely brilliant.

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imastawka — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:18:05 GMT

What's it called? I'm interested

Maybe it's on catch-up

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donnashuggy — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:20:59 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
What's it called? I'm interested

Maybe it's on catch-up

Actually it is on SBS, brilliant

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-missing

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donnashuggy — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:23:01 GMT

@donnashuggy wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
What's it called? I'm interested

Maybe it's on catch-up
Actually it is on SBS, brilliant

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-missing

It is very vaguely based on it, that aside it is very good watching.

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kopenhagen5 — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:05:44 GMT

Definitely very valid points.

And if we stop thinking about the McCann parents the way we imagine them to be, like our good selves, then we begin to realize that perhaps they WERE different.

Perhaps the parents were selfish and cared more about their entertainment in their lives and perhaps the children were considered second to the parents lives, inconvenient and a nuisance even.

We only see a small glimpse of the parents through media, and it's possible they are putting their best foot forward when eyes are on them.

Lets not forget they may be the best parents, totally innocent and perhaps it was the first time the children had been left alone and Maddie was abducted, BUT one cannot forget the fact that such young'uns were left alone. There lies the cause and problem.

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lurker172602 — Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:54:20 GMT

Then we should all be thankful that our own bad or foolish parenting mistakes were not so harshly punished. I, for one, know I did lots of things wrong when bringing up my family, but they are all still alive and I know where they are.

I think we are in danger of falling into victim blaming here, unless people believe it was actually the parents who "removed" the child?

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donnashuggy — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:09:32 GMT

If I turned my back and my child drowned I would be to blame, even though it would not be intentional. The fact of the matter is that it would not have happened if the child was not left alone, I think that is the point of the article, not that the parents are bad. We all make mistakes and accidents do happen.

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creative*crisis — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:22:12 GMT

Having seen some of Katie Hopkins performances and been left with a bad taste in my mouth I'm pretty sure she has every intention of making them out to be bad parents.
Whatever the principle is I suspect her motives are not pure.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:29:06 GMT

She is also making it easier for others to say what they 'really' think

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kopenhagen5 — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:30:48 GMT

Quite agree lurker.

My point was more to affirm what I think was the nature of the article being, we as a society together with the media seem to have put the McCanns in a one sided view with very little thought to the other side.

I see the article as mostly a counterpoint to balance a possible biased view.

But it is interesting how much of resources has been invested in the case, which goes to show how much we care about individuals.

And no matter how "bad" the parents may have been, I am glad so much has gone into the effort for little Madeleine's sake.

As we all know, there is nothing more important than our little ones.

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creative*crisis — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:31:14 GMT

That's as maybe but i question her motives for so doing .
I don't believe "the public good " was foremost.

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creative*crisis — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:39:09 GMT

Also I don't think it's quite true to say it could only happen because her parents weren't there . Certainly it was easier but how many children have been taken or harmed while their parents slept in the next room?

To make it plain I wouldn't have made the choices they did but I'm not going to brand them all the same.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:43:42 GMT

Her motives are not relavent she upsets a lot of people, that seems to be her brand, some things I strongly agree with that she says. What she has written is a case of being brave enough to say it.

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lurker172602 — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:44:14 GMT

Ok, I've gone back an read the article properly (I admit to skimming earlier) and I get where you guys are coming from.

There are a couple of things she says though that disturb me.

“Kate and Gerry McCann didn’t deserve £11million of our cash to look for Maddie or try to resolve their consciences or salvage reputations"

Maybe they don't, but Maddie certainly does.

"I believe the truth is that Madeleine McCann is never coming home"

I, and I suspect most people, probably agree. But, like the Morecombes, we/they just need to know.

I was quite surprised, when we were over there recently, at the number of missing posters there were about the place of this little girl. I think the first one I noticed was in Amsterdam airport.

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donnashuggy — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:52:12 GMT

It is the unfairness of it all I suppose, a bit like the small number of children in detention given so much media attention when there are thousands more worse off.

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kopenhagen5 — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:57:42 GMT

Recent news - http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/missing-madeleine-mccanns-parents-kate-and-gerry-aware-of-claims-daughter-was-spotted-in-paraguay/ar-AAgAOBZ?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout

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lionrose.7 — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:47:12 GMT

I think every one should stop beating up the parents, ok what they did was wrong and I bet they have paid for it over and over again.

They will have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

I would just like to know what happened to that little girl and feel the police in that country did not do their job, blaming it on the parents instead of looking for the real abductor of Maddie.

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the_great_she_elephant — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:25:29 GMT

The fact of the matter is that it would not have happened if the child was not left alone

On the contrary it can and has happened while parents were asleep in the next room,

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chloe-campbell-3-abducted-from-childers-home-after-threats-against-father/story-fnihsrf2-1226881974862

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/04/1057179154768.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903401/Girl-three-kidnapped-stranger-bedroom-window-miraculously-saved-father-uncle-chase-abductor-street-tackle-him.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey