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UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

davidc4430 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 04:47:58 GMT

Grenfell Tower fire: Fears for residents as giant blaze engulfs 27-storey London apartment block

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-14/london-major-fire-engulfs-24-storey-apartment-building/8617158

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

the4masters2013 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 05:26:27 GMT

Londeners are most probably wondering what they have done wrong and what is going to happen next.

They seem to be going from one disaster to the next.

I am very sorry for the people involved in the fire .

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imastawka — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 05:34:01 GMT

Awful. 1am, everyone must've been in bed.

They're not saying terrorism, yet, but maybe a gas leak? For it to go up so quickly?

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freddie*rooster — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 05:54:01 GMT

Horrific

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Anonymous — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 05:56:16 GMT

I'm feeling sick seeing the reports

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twyngwyn — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:01:18 GMT

I think you might be right, stawka

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davidc4430 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:09:12 GMT

i remember going to the pictures to see "towering inferno" and ever since when i see new very tall buildings my first thought is how do you get out if theres a fire on the lower levels.

this was an apartment building, whatever fire prevention it had seems to have been pretty useless.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

domino-710 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:11:00 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
i remember going to the pictures to see "towering inferno" and ever since when i see new very tall buildings my first thought is how do you get out if theres a fire on the lower levels.

this was an apartment building, whatever fire prevention it had seems to have been pretty useless.

David, there is no fire ' prevention '.

The best that can be done - given - you are awake - is a way out.

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tasfleur — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:13:12 GMT

Their lives, their homes. It's just horrible; those poor people. Words are not enough to express the feelings.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

springyzone — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:19:42 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
Awful. 1am, everyone must've been in bed.

They're not saying terrorism, yet, but maybe a gas leak? For it to go up so quickly?

It's strange but terrorism never entered my mind for a second, but I suppose anything would be possible.

It doesn't sound as if it is anything more than a fire but a very horrific one for anyone living higher up in the building.

I don't know that firefighters can easily tackle anything that is more than a few storeys high.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

imastawka — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 06:32:07 GMT

Residents warned there would be a fire, more than a year ago.

It's starting to sound like the landlords weren't doing maintenance - ignoring requests.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/london-fire-action-group-warned-of-risk-at-grenfell-tower-more-than-a-year-ago/ar-BBCEh2x?ocid=spartanntp

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

davidc4430 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:03:18 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:
i remember going to the pictures to see "towering inferno" and ever since when i see new very tall buildings my first thought is how do you get out if theres a fire on the lower levels.

this was an apartment building, whatever fire prevention it had seems to have been pretty useless.
David, there is no fire ' prevention '.

The best that can be done - given - you are awake - is a way out.

Rubbish, no fire prevention, thats just rediculous.

Grenfell Towers was built in 1974. It contained 120 homes and housed more than 200 people.

your trying to say this building had no fire prevention of any kind. i find that a really unbelievable statement.

no fire alarms, no smoke alarms, no sprinkler system, no fire escapes? no fire extinguishers?

there wouldnt be an apartment building of this kind anywhere in the western world without fire prevention items installed. you couldnt get insurance on a building without it.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

domino-710 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:08:41 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:
i remember going to the pictures to see "towering inferno" and ever since when i see new very tall buildings my first thought is how do you get out if theres a fire on the lower levels.

this was an apartment building, whatever fire prevention it had seems to have been pretty useless.
David, there is no fire ' prevention '.

The best that can be done - given - you are awake - is a way out.
Rubbish, no fire prevention, thats just rediculous.

Grenfell Towers was built in 1974. It contained 120 homes and housed more than 200 people.

your trying to say this building had no fire prevention of any kind. i find that a really unbelievable statement.

no fire alarms, no smoke alarms, no sprinkler system, no fire escapes? no fire extinguishers?

there wouldnt be an apartment building of this kind anywhere in the western world without fire prevention items installed. you couldnt get insurance on a building without it.

With all due respect.

I said there is no fire prevention - simply because - fires happen.

You are arguing - again - & - yet - again - after the fact.

The fires happen - dah - then the alarms, sprinklers, escapes, extinguishers - come into play - etc etc etc.

Stick to the logical.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

davidc4430 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:25:21 GMT

with all due respect? you havent shown me any respect since you first got your nickers in a twist because you dont like reading my posts but you keep reading them and making stupid comments.

oh heres mr newscorp....again.

like we dont get the news?

well if you know everything before i post it then you dont need to read it or comment on it.

please, feel free to stop reading anything i post if it bothers you so much.

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domino-710 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 07:55:20 GMT

Done.

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

ecar3483 — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:35:11 GMT

External cladding that burns like a Roman Candle of Guy Fawkes' night...

No alarm, no fire suppression system, no extinguishers...

The fire started on the third floor...

The lift doesn't go to the ground...

There's a pile of builder's waste blocking an access way...

What do I believe?

I did the simple sums.

So many units, so many families (and a guess at the size of the average family)...

If 'randomly selected value' number of people escaped, that leaves...

That's a number I can't believe.

That's a number I don't want to believe....

Tragedy.

It's like saying One, when you mean One hundred.

The word doesn't begin to encompass it.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for those who didn't make it.

I'm sorry for those who did.

And I'm sorry for those of us left to wade to the mire of conjecture and internet waffle, as we try to make any kind of sense of this.

The Moon will rise, here, soon.

I will ask her to watch over you all.

🙂

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

baybizz — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 01:17:05 GMT

Wednesday's London Evening Standard front page:

www.standard.co.uk/news/tower-block-inferno-3564821

www.standard.co.uk/news/tower-blaze-chimney-effect-3565211

www.standard.co.uk

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bright.ton42 — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 02:43:47 GMT

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tasfleur — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 03:15:53 GMT

Re: UK NOW - Grenfell Tower fire

icyfroth — Thu, 15 Jun 2017 06:58:12 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
Awful. 1am, everyone must've been in bed.

They're not saying terrorism, yet, but maybe a gas leak? For it to go up so quickly?

Exactly. There must be more to it than meets the eye for the whole building, all or most of he units, to go up in such an inferno.

I'm sure further investigations will have a sad story to tell. If the truth is revealed, that is.

I don't think it's terrorism.