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Cardinal George Pell - CHARGED

twyngwyn — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 01:17:24 GMT

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/cardinal-george-pell-charged-with-at-least-three-serious-sex-offences/ar-BBDqjRA?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartanntp

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the4masters2013 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:17:42 GMT

Always thought he was guilty.

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lind9650 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:22:29 GMT

Bet my bottom dollar that he won't come back to Australia and the Pope will protect him.

Erica

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:39:46 GMT

Anyone here seen the movie Ghost Ship?

I would like to do to this scum what the meat hook did to the female baddie

Lower than a snake's baubles

Of course the pope will protect the piece of filth

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the4masters2013 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:46:54 GMT

Pell reckons he will be back in Australia for the court day.

I feel the doctors will say he is too sick to travel!

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tasfleur — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 03:52:58 GMT

I'm not sure that Pope Francis will protect this horrible man ultimately. This new Pope might be something quite different from those who have gone before, more rational and maybe more ethical (I'm no fan of any religion or church by the way).

It's a waiting game, but don't hold your breath!

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imastawka — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:06:15 GMT

Here's the relevant part of that link -

"Cardinal Pell will return to Australia, as soon as possible, to clear his name following advice and approval by his doctors who will also advise on his travel arrangements"

He'll do a Skase. He's not coming back any time soon.

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:22:11 GMT

Bear badly wants to swear

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domino-710 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:48:45 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Bear badly wants to swear

Go right ahead & give him a punch for me while at it.

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givemeaspell — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:00:12 GMT

When I read the book Hell on the way to Heaven, which was the book about the Foster children who were molested by Father O'Donnell, I couldn't believe the response that Pell gave to the parents when they went to him. "hope you have a good lawyer".

Looks like he might need one now.

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domino-710 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:20:16 GMT

Hope the good Cardinal has stocked up on Speedos - we all know where he is off to on his last ride.

Charge or no charge.

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imastawka — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 08:17:30 GMT

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janeababe — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 08:42:03 GMT

This George Pell saga has been strung along for years and years and years!

WHY HASNT SOMEONE SHOT THAT MONGREL YET !!!!!

makes me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mad GGrrrrrrrr....

(i wonder if the bots will bleep out mon gre l ) ???

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tezza2844 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:41:31 GMT

Sincerely hope these charges are not based on false memory recall, otherwise we will be in a long long and probably useless trial.

http://www.afma.asn.au/afmafaq.html#anchor577047

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zanadoo_56 — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:31:30 GMT

It's been a long time coming. I think he will come back for the trial.

A lot depends on how good his lawyers are I reckon.

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johcaschro — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:07:53 GMT

Whilst I have no love nor respect for any cardinal of the Catholic church, I find it a bit unsettling that so many people here don't observe one of the cardinal rules of our fair society. viz, that a person should be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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tasfleur — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 22:53:29 GMT

Johcaschro, I don't disagree with your post about innocence and guilt overall.

Speaking for myself, and in my personal opinion, I have watched every interview Pell himself has participated in, watched how he attempted to demonise and discredit all the victims of his church and spoke about them in snide appalling thinly veiled indifference and then change what he said from interview to interview, swinging from hostility to faux 'caring' and back again.

Hopefully he will come back, but it remains to be seen. It takes an awful lot of evidence for the police to lay charges like that, especially when it involves a high profile person such as Pell. They normally would not bother unless they were sure they had enough evidence to actually make such charges stand from one country to another where there is no extradition.

If he has nothing to fear, then he should return immediately to clear his name as he insists he wants to do.

There is huge difference between 'law and justice'.

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janeababe — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:25:57 GMT

@johcaschro wrote:
Whilst I have no love nor respect for any cardinal of the Catholic church, I find it a bit unsettling that so many people here don't observe one of the cardinal rules of our fair society. viz, that a person should be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Are you implying that all his *victims* are lying and only Pell is telling the truth????

No wonder victims of child abuse stay quiet for years and years and years!!!!!!!!

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freddie*rooster — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:11:25 GMT

I agree with johncaschro we as arm chair Barrister's don't have the privilege

of all the evidence regarding this case - human nature being as it is we like

to part our gut feelings when it comes to news worthy stories such as this

horrible disgusting story.

Tas well said, I also agree with your post he is a smarmy heartless individual

I was glued to the TV when he testified for the Royal Commission and was

struck by his ducking and weaving and his avoidance at answering direct

questioning. Do I like the man NO he protected priests he knew were guilty

of abuse.

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the_great_she_elephant — Fri, 30 Jun 2017 04:28:39 GMT

Are you implying that all his *victims* are lying and only Pell is telling the truth????

Jane, we don't yet know, except in very general terms, what any of his alleged victims have actually accused him of, or how strong their evidence is, so whatever our gut feelings may be (and mine tell me he is probably guilty) it is impossible, until it comes to court, to reach any conclusion.

I agree with Freddie that he has shown himslef to be a smarmy, heartless **bleep** who has protected and defended child abusers, but legally that does not constitute proof that he is an abuser himself; and even lawyers for some of his accusers have warned it may be very difficult to get a conviction.