https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/2139192#M641600 <P>^^^^^^^^</P><DIV><P class="selectionShareable">Four years ago this month, Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared, and as you read this, a ship with eight unmanned mini-submarines is scouring more of the southern Indian Ocean looking for it — in the wrong place, because the searchers are using the same flawed theory.</P></DIV><P class="selectionShareable">It’s extraordinary that four years on, and despite more and more evidence to the contrary from an ever-growing number of independent experts, the hunt for MH370 is still based on the false premise that no one was flying the plane at the end.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">That’s the line still being run by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">No professional airline pilot I know, and few if any top-level international air-crash investigators, believes that scenario: everything points to captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah hijacking his own aircraft, flying it to the end and ditching it to disappear it farther southwest than the first search covered.</P><P class="selectionShareable">The new hunt, farther north from the previous target zone, is being undertaken by a Houston-based, British-owned deep-sea survey company, Ocean Infinity, on a “no find, no fee” basis, but the search strategy is still based on the ATSB’s misconceived theories.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Last week’s report on the search by the Malaysian government showed the vessel Seabed Constructor has covered ­almost all of Site 1, the area the ATSB and the CSIRO identified as likeliest to mark the resting place of the Boeing 777 and its 239 passengers and crew, and is now moving north.</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB’s “ghost flight” ­theory of pilots being made unresponsive, possibly through depressurisation, and its “death dive” corollary of the aircraft crashing down rapidly after fuel exhaustion, are all based on an eight-second satellite communication “ping”.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">But that one skerrick of “evidence” the ATSB uses for its “death dive” theory can be explained easily by a pilot being at the controls and pointing the nose down. The problem with the ATSB is that not only does it lack professional senior airline pilots in its ranks, but it appears to have not even consulted any.</P><P class="selectionShareable">MH370 departed Kuala ­Lumpur after midnight on March 8, 2014, for a scheduled flight to Beijing. Less than an hour after ­departure over the South China Sea, the aircraft suddenly disappeared from secondary radar. This disappearance occurred two minutes after the captain had said goodnight to Kuala Lumpur air traffic control.</P><P class="selectionShareable">This resulted in a frantic search during the next week for MH370 in the South China Sea.</P><P class="selectionShareable">However, strange events came to light.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Subsequent Malaysian military primary radar analysis revealed the aircraft had turned around and flown a course back across northern peninsular Malaysia, swinging past the beautiful island of Penang up the Strait of Malacca, around the northern tip of Sumatra and into oblivion.</P><P class="selectionShareable">It was apparent this aircraft was under the control of a highly qualified person, otherwise the aircraft would have flown itself to the programmed destination, Beijing, which means someone reprogrammed the flight management system computers.</P><P class="selectionShareable">In his first official statement live on television Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak stated “this is a case of deliberate human intervention”. The Malaysian authorities subsequently went rather quiet on this.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Strange, therefore, that when the ATSB became involved it immediately went with an event that rendered the pilots unresponsive, such as depressurisation or fire — events that professional airline ­pilots are well trained to handle and are subjected to every six months in simulators.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Then came the brilliant work by a group of scientists in Britain who discovered hourly satellite automatic log-on pings to and from the aircraft that showed it was flying for another seven hours.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Zaharie in all likelihood never knew about these hourly “handshakes”.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Brilliant deductive work by these scientists calculated the MH370 position line arcs, ending with the final and vital seventh arc on which the search area could be calculated knowing the amount of fuel on board and therefore flight time.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Under international law, ­Malaysia is responsible for the ­investigation. Australia was asked and agreed to be responsible for the first search and this is where it gets baffling.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Why did the ATSB plan the survey area based on an end-of-flight scenario of unresponsive pilots when the mass of circum­stantial evidence pointed to Zaharie having hijacked his own aircraft?</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB has steadfastly ­refused to respond to these points from me, British airline captain Simon Hardy and New Zealand-born captain Mike Keane, the ­former chief pilot of Britain’s largest airline, easyJet.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Hardy is a former British Airways Boeing 777 pilot who calculated accurately the final position of MH370 based on Zaharie being in control, and that was farther southwest than the ATSB searched.</P><P class="selectionShareable">We professional pilots look at the fundamental logic: Zaharie came up with a very thorough, complex plan to ensure no one ever found the aircraft. This included turning off the secondary radar transponder, flying the unusual route to a deep stretch of very remote ocean, and ceasing radio contact.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Having sent the co-pilot to the passenger cabin on an errand early on, Zaharie would have depressurised the cabin to put everyone else to sleep and then death after their short supply of oxygen ran out and he enjoyed his longer supply. That would have stopped anyone alerting authorities by mobile phone when the aircraft flew back over Malaysia. With everyone dead, Zaharie would have re-pressurised the aircraft and flown the rest of the trip in comfort.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">It stands to reason that having gone to all this trouble and planning, Zaharie would have flown the plane to the end and ditched it to maintain full control of the outcome, including sinking it in as few pieces as possible.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Many former US National Transportation Safety Board air crash investigators, and Larry Vance, a top Canadian investigator who is writing a book about MH370, also had their views ­discarded by the ATSB.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Vance’s work is critical and new. He got his hands on detailed, high-resolution photographs of the flaperon and the flap that were found washed up on the other side of the Indian Ocean. They clearly show they were in the lowered position. Lowering the flaps can be done only by a pilot, and it’s solid evidence that Zaharie did so in a bid to ditch the plane.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB’s bosses and media flacks have dug themselves even more deeply into their cave of ­silence, refusing to discuss Vance’s findings, apparently feeling no ­obligation to answer reporters’ questions aiming to inform the taxpaying public who pay their ­salaries.</P><P class="selectionShareable">I was amused to read that when<SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN><I>The Australian’</I>s Ean Higgins asked the ATSB’s spokesman Paul Sadler whether the bureau still ­believed its “ghost flight” and “death dive” theory, he referred the inquiry to the federal government’s Joint Agency Co-ordination Centre, headed by senior public servant Judith Zielke.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Zielke’s spokesman said the questions “should be directed to Malaysian officials”.</P><P class="selectionShareable">So that’s what it’s come to: you ask Australian government agencies what they think, and get told you have to ask the Malaysians.</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB, after staunchly ­defending its decision to go with an unresponsive pilot scenario, much later begrudgingly admitted that Zaharie might have hijacked the aircraft but was unresponsive at the end of the flight. Really! So Zaharie was responsive two hours into the hijack when he turned MH370 south at the north end of Sumatra and became unresponsive when?</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">This absolutely does not make sense.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">Then we know from flight plan information recovered by the FBI from Zaharie’s home computer flight simulator that he plotted a similar course; clearly this was carefully thought out from start to finish.</P><P class="selectionShareable">He would not have risked the aircraft on fuel exhaustion spiralling uncontrolled into a 1000km/h dive that would produce masses of debris, some of which would float for months. Rather, he would have tried a controlled ditching, which in those rough seas would most likely kill him and wreck the aircraft but leave it substantially ­intact to avoid floating debris.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">English scientist Robin Stevens, an independent MH370 investigator, calculated the time of MH370 fuel exhaustion coincides with the local mean time of sunrise. This means Zaharie would minimise the time in daylight to avoid any detection from passing ships yet would have daylight available for a controlled ditching.</P><P class="selectionShareable">The sole argument the ATSB has pointing to an unresponsive pilot is an increasing doppler shift during the eight-second snapshot of the last satellite ping, which it says shows a rapid and accelerating descent — an uncontrolled dive. OK, so where is the debris and flotsam from such an impact?</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">And if the ATSB had bothered to ask any airline pilot about ­immediate action by a pilot suffering double engine failure at high altitude, they would get the same result. A pilot would stuff the nose down to initially lose altitude ­rapidly and increase airspeed for a variety of reasons, some of which are related to pressurisation. Flying at 40,000 feet is a dangerous place — the time of useful consciousness is about 10 seconds, and without engines running the aircraft will steadily depressurise.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Such a sharp descent ­manoeuvre would show up as an increasing doppler shift.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB also states in one of its reports that “a controlled ditching scenario requires engine thrust to be available to properly control the direction and vertical speed at touchdown and to provide ­hydraulic power to the flight ­controls”.</P><P class="selectionShareable">“This evidence is therefore ­inconsistent with a controlled ditching scenario.”</P><P class="selectionShareable">The ATSB investigators shot themselves in the foot with this one.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">A Boeing 777 pilot, as I was, could have told them that with both engines flamed out, the ram air turbine automatically emerges from the body of the aircraft and extends into the slipstream. It uses the wind speed of the descending aircraft to drive a generator and hydraulic pump to power the flight controls. A pilot could easily ditch a Boeing 777 using this emergency hydraulic and electrical power.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The problem, of course, is that as the ATSB itself pointed out, if it was under the control of a pilot, after fuel exhaustion the aircraft had the capability to glide for a further 125 nautical miles — about 200km — and out of the search area defined by the bureau.</P><P class="selectionShareable">This raises the question of why the ATSB would not consider extending the search south to cover the pilot controlled glide theory, as extolled by many aviation experts.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">This is where a possible deeper and darker motive begins to ­surface. Some aviation experts have pointed out that it is not in Malaysia’s interest to have MH370 found.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The liability and political ramifications would be enormous if it is proved that the MH370 captain meticulously planned and executed this hijack and the homicide of 238 innocent people. There is ­already enough circumstantial evidence to warrant a major criminal investigation.</P><P class="selectionShareable">When the Ocean Infinity search at more northerly latitudes concludes, this will enable the ­Malaysian government to issue a final report and call the case closed.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">This is why I say there should be a proper inquiry into the conduct of the ATSB. Former transport minister Warren Truss and former ATSB chief commissioner Martin Dolan should be asked whether there was any agreement with Malaysia to deliberately stay with the death dive theory so the more likely southern pilot-controlled ditching area was not searched.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The final result of the ATSB sticking with the erroneous death dive theory was that the search was unsuccessful, at a cost of $200 million of which $60m was funded by Australian taxpayers. The hi-tech search equipment used, and the 175-tonne, 64m target means it would have been found if the right area had been searched.</P><P class="selectionShareable">The Malaysian government ­really had no choice but to accept Ocean Infinity’s offer — a no find, no fee search. Some overseas ­experts consider the revised CSIRO drift modelling results on which the search is being based as intrinsically unreliable.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="selectionShareable">The fear is that this new search will be unsuccessful because Ocean Infinity has linked itself to the ATSB stance and will pack up and go home at the completion of the agreed 25,000sq km search area, expected in June or July.</P><P class="selectionShareable">Surely the Australian government could ask Ocean Infinity to try the southerly area where a pilot controlled ditching likely occurred.</P><P class="selectionShareable">As independent MH370 investigator Dawna Kaufmann points out, it needs a brave politician to step forward and shake the tree. Only a proper investigation will suffice.</P><P class="selectionShareable">&nbsp;</P><P class="pointer_news_info selectionShareable">Byron Bailey, a veteran commercial pilot with more than 45 years’ experience, is a former RAAF fighter pilot and trainer. He was a senior captain with Emirates for 15 years, during which time he flew the same model B777 as MH370</P> Tue, 20 Mar 2018 02:15:18 GMT twyngwyn 2018-03-20T02:15:18Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831079#M523999 <P>Have they found it?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A target="_blank" href="http://www.9news.com.au/World/2015/07/30/04/10/Wreckage-speculated-to-be-from-MH370-washes-up-on-Indian-Ocean-island">http://www.9news.com.au/World/2015/07/30/04/10/Wreckage-speculated-to-be-from-MH370-washes-up-on-Indian-Ocean-island</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I hope so, they seem to think the debri is from the same type of plane. How many Boing 777's have gone missing?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:21:46 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831079#M523999 punch*drunk 2015-07-29T22:21:46Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831081#M524001 <DIV class="copy-paste-block"><P><EM>Analysts say the debris that washed up on a French island in the Indian Ocean appears to belong to the same type of aircraft as missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, although it is still too early to be certain.</EM></P><P><EM>The two-metre long piece of wreckage, which seemed to be part of a wing, was found by people cleaning up a beach on the island of La Reunion, which is east of Madagascar.</EM></P><P><EM>Both the Associated Press and CNN cited unnamed sources saying the wing appeared to belong to a Boeing 777, which if confirmed would make it likely to be from the missing aircraft.</EM></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>East of Madagascar? I cant remember exactly where they were searching, I woder if thats roughly the same area?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P></DIV> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:23:50 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831081#M524001 punch*drunk 2015-07-29T22:23:50Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831085#M524004 <P>Flight path and detections -&nbsp;<A target="_blank" href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26503141">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26503141</A></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Madagascar is to the far left.</P> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:56:21 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831085#M524004 kopenhagen5 2015-07-29T22:56:21Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831089#M524008 <P>My novice thinking is that the Southern Equatorial Current (sea) has played a part if it is in fact the wing of that aircraft. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>DEB</P> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:07:31 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831089#M524008 lloydslights 2015-07-29T23:07:31Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831091#M524010 <P>I think so too.</P><P>Debris has had enough time to drift from the search area to the east coast of Africa.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I also think they should be looking a little closer to the west towards the Maldives. (<STRONG>Kudahuvadhoo)</STRONG></P><P>Can't discount the reports from many locals there seeing a low flying large jet with red and blue on it.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If it is from MH370 they can now do calculations using the current and timelines.</P><P>That may show a completely different possibility.</P> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:19:51 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831091#M524010 kopenhagen5 2015-07-29T23:19:51Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831093#M524012 <P>apparently the serial number is visible</P><P>so it should be confirmed within a day or two.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:28:18 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831093#M524012 Anonymous 2015-07-29T23:28:18Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831155#M524044 <P>I really hope it does prove to be from that plane. If it is, thent least it will put paid to the wild&nbsp;wild conspiracy theories and &nbsp;bring some closure to all those poor families</P> Thu, 30 Jul 2015 02:21:44 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831155#M524044 the_great_she_elephant 2015-07-30T02:21:44Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831175#M524053 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/222421">@kopenhagen5</a> wrote:<BR /><P>I think so too.</P><P>Debris has had enough time to drift from the search area to the east coast of Africa.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I also think they should be looking a little closer to the west towards the Maldives. (<STRONG>Kudahuvadhoo)</STRONG></P><P>Can't discount the reports from many locals there seeing a low flying large jet with red and blue on it.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>If it is from MH370 they can now do calculations using the current and timelines.</P><P>That may show a completely different possibility.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I read somehwere that the plane seen from the Muldives has been accounted for. &nbsp;There was a flight of a smaller but similar coloured plane that landed in that general area at the time.</P> Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:00:47 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831175#M524053 gleee58 2015-07-30T03:00:47Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831191#M524057 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326284">@the_great_she_elephant</a> wrote:<BR /><P>I really hope it does prove to be from that plane. If it is, thent least it will put paid to the wild&nbsp;wild conspiracy theories and &nbsp;bring some closure to all those poor families</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>reports are saying the photos show</P><P>'incredible' similarities to a boeing 777</P> Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:25:11 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831191#M524057 Anonymous 2015-07-30T03:25:11Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831682#M524274 <P>Oh, thanks Glee. I didn't know.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>An Oceanographer predicted 12 months ago based on currents some items from MH370 may wash up on Reunion Island.</P><P>Well, I think he is spot on, but it is still not known if it is from MH370.</P><P>The number on the piece of wing is apparently not a serial number but some other number.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>"<SPAN>Normally identification would be aided by a small serial number plate attached to a flaperon, but the part found on the beach appears to be missing the serial number".</SPAN></P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:03:51 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831682#M524274 kopenhagen5 2015-07-31T07:03:51Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831692#M524281 <P>It is from a boeing 777 and there is only one missing, so looks like it is from the missing plane, at least&nbsp;families may get some answers now</P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:24:11 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831692#M524281 lionrose.7 2015-07-31T07:24:11Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831745#M524310 <P>I wonder how long it will be before the conspircy theorists crawl back out from their holes to tell us it that <EM>"THEY"</EM>&nbsp;obviously planted it there to hide the truth of&nbsp;what really hapened.</P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:59:08 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831745#M524310 the_great_she_elephant 2015-07-31T08:59:08Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831758#M524316 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326284">@the_great_she_elephant</a> wrote:<BR /><P>I wonder how long it will be before the conspircy theorists crawl back out from their holes to tell us it that <EM>"THEY"</EM>&nbsp;obviously planted it there to hide the truth of&nbsp;what really hapened.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>even if there is more evidence to finally</P><P>show what happened, the theorists will</P><P>always come up with alternative theory.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:57:11 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831758#M524316 Anonymous 2015-07-31T09:57:11Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831790#M524336 <P>I just hope one day they will know what happened so the families can at least be at peace.</P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:05:27 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831790#M524336 lionrose.7 2015-07-31T11:05:27Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831801#M524344 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326284">@the_great_she_elephant</a> wrote:<BR /><P>I wonder how long it will be before the conspircy theorists crawl back out from their holes to tell us it that <EM>"THEY"</EM>&nbsp;obviously planted it there to hide the truth of&nbsp;what really hapened.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sad isn't it? &nbsp;That's the same thought I had <span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":worried_face:">😟</span></P> Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:17:28 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1831801#M524344 lurker172602 2015-07-31T11:17:28Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1833787#M525211 It has been confirmed the debris is from MH370. Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:26:43 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1833787#M525211 azureline** 2015-08-05T20:26:43Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1833813#M525218 <P>Yes, confirmed.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><A href="http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/wreckage-conclusively-confirmed-as-from-mh370-malaysia-pm/ar-CCnVO?ocid=mailsignout" target="_blank">http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/wreckage-conclusively-confirmed-as-from-mh370-malaysia-pm/ar-CCnVO?ocid=mailsignout</A></P> Wed, 05 Aug 2015 22:52:56 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1833813#M525218 kopenhagen5 2015-08-05T22:52:56Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834071#M525346 <P>&nbsp;They've announced today as devastating news???? I found the news as more of a relief .&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>What's worst for the family? Not knowing with the faintest of hope or knowing and being able to move on?</P> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:00:47 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834071#M525346 the_bob_delusion 2015-08-06T10:00:47Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834074#M525348 <P>I agree.</P><P>Finally an answer.</P> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:07:18 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834074#M525348 kopenhagen5 2015-08-06T10:07:18Z https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834092#M525361 <BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><a href="https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326284">@the_great_she_elephant</a> wrote:<BR /><P>I wonder how long it will be before the conspircy theorists crawl back out from their holes to tell us it that <EM>"THEY"</EM>&nbsp;obviously planted it there to hide the truth of&nbsp;what really hapened.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And they're at it already! According to some Facebook "experts" the flaperon isn't from MH370 at all - it came off MH17 and was smuggled out of Ukraine by "THEM" and dumped in the sea off Reunion Island to disguise the "TRUTH" Of course, this means that the Malaysian Government, the Australian Government and every member of the French investigative team are part of the cover-up conspiracy, but, hey, that makes sense, doesn't it? . . . . . ummm . . . . &nbsp;doesn't it?</P> Thu, 06 Aug 2015 11:13:50 GMT https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Missing-flight-MH370/m-p/1834092#M525361 the_great_she_elephant 2015-08-06T11:13:50Z