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My Health Record ---- Opt In or Out

lyhargr_0 — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:46:37 GMT

Me ..... Def OUT

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marwi5023 — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:12:42 GMT

I have opted out too. Don't trust their ability to prevent nefarious activity from third parties

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lyhargr_0 — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:32:48 GMT

Yeah, well it's off to a great start lol Apparently the whole system was down for a few hours last night ... Typical Liberal stuff up AGAIN!

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davidc4430 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 00:30:07 GMT

it really doesnt bother me, i think having your medical records available quickly if you travel around the country and had some reason to require medical treatment would be a good. as i never go furthur than adelaide once every 5 years or so it no big deal for me.

but i know govts are really carp at keeping promises too so the security will allways be a problem.

there is nothing i have in my medical records i have fear of others knowing about, so i'm not 'normal' what is 'normal' anyway?

and if i'm ever rushed to hospital it will be great if i dont have to remember all the pills i take.

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lyhargr_0 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 01:17:12 GMT

It's a personal thing David, given how many other things this gov has stuffed upon ( last night was good example ), there is no way, I am taking a chance re my medical records.

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the4masters2013 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 03:16:50 GMT

Also doesn't worry me. If anyone is interested in the one and only tablet my GP prescribes for me, they must have a very boring life!!

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performance_parts_clearance_centre — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 03:42:40 GMT

Im finding that the whole opt-out bit is something of a hoot...

Here's how it's working from my perspective:

Fred is horrifed at the idea that Big Brother will be keeping details on him in a centralized location. He's not sure whether the Government is the problem, or maybe it's the thousands of hackers who are sitting online searching his name every few minutes and patiently waiting for his details to pop up, but he knows it's not a good thing. He wants out, and breaks the world land-speed record getting to a computer so's he can start the "no! NO! NO!!" process.

The opt-out process requires that Fred supplies two items of ID - his Medicare number (which they already have), and his driver's license number. Which, of course, he supplies without a second thought.

Let's think about that for a sec, huh? Fred doesn't want Big Bro to have a whole bunch of info on him. In order to avoid that, Fred has... just given them a piece of info that they didn't have. They already had his Medicare card number, now they have his driver's license number linked to his Medicare number.

Moving forward: Fred completes the opt-out process, and is told he's been successful. For his own records, he can either print the confirmation page, or have a copy e-mailed to him. Naturally, he chooses e-mail, because printed pages can be easily lost.

So now, Big Bro has an e-mail address linked to all Fred's other details.

The process started off with Big Bro having Fred's Medicare card number. Now they also have his driver's license details and an e-mail address linked to that Medicare number.

Whoever it is who's busily compiling and cross-referencing everyone's info is probably wetting themselves with laughter at how easy it is...

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Anonymous — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 03:53:34 GMT

Those are the exact lines I was thinking along

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:04:28 GMT

I didn't give them my email.
Third parties have already been accessing the my health records of those that were already opted in.
You already have to provide ID at so many places now and the government already knows your driver's licence number. The government issues driver's licences.
What I don't want is anybody accessing private information about me so that they can hound me about buying insurance or whatever it is that they are selling.
I have had to stop selling scrap metal because in Victoria you must produce a licence and a bank account to facilitate payment and scrap metal dealers don't strike me as being that concerned about protecting your information.
You can't stop all the information compiling but I can limit it.
Made a complaint to Coke a Cola Amatil and they want your date of birth so I gave them the date of the day I was making the complaint. Don't see why they need a date of birth. Also complained about that in my original complaint.
Once again it's not about stopping the gathering of information, that is impossible. It's about limiting

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:08:31 GMT

Performance and enigmabear. The reason that you can use your driver's licence as ID is because they already know your driver's licence details.
If they didn't it wouldn't be ID.
So your argument is flawed

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Anonymous — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:15:39 GMT

Sure, until a scammer comes along with their hacking and has thier job made easier for them with people confirming/re-entering their details en-masse

No thanks

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performance_parts_clearance_centre — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:26:14 GMT

No, the state-based local road authority - VicRoads, RTA, etc - already has your driver's license number. The Federal Government doesn't - until you hand it over to them.

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lyhargr_0 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:33:59 GMT

@performance_parts_clearance_centre wrote:
Im finding that the whole opt-out bit is something of a hoot...

Here's how it's working from my perspective:

Fred is horrifed at the idea that Big Brother will be keeping details on him in a centralized location. He's not sure whether the Government is the problem, or maybe it's the thousands of hackers who are sitting online searching his name every few minutes and patiently waiting for his details to pop up, but he knows it's not a good thing. He wants out, and breaks the world land-speed record getting to a computer so's he can start the "no! NO! NO!!" process.

The opt-out process requires that Fred supplies two items of ID - his Medicare number (which they already have), and his driver's license number. Which, of course, he supplies without a second thought.

Let's think about that for a sec, huh? Fred doesn't want Big Bro to have a whole bunch of info on him. In order to avoid that, Fred has... just given them a piece of info that they didn't have. They already had his Medicare card number, now they have his driver's license number linked to his Medicare number.

Moving forward: Fred completes the opt-out process, and is told he's been successful. For his own records, he can either print the confirmation page, or have a copy e-mailed to him. Naturally, he chooses e-mail, because printed pages can be easily lost.

So now, Big Bro has an e-mail address linked to all Fred's other details.

The process started off with Big Bro having Fred's Medicare card number. Now they also have his driver's license details and an e-mail address linked to that Medicare number.

Whoever it is who's busily compiling and cross-referencing everyone's info is probably wetting themselves with laughter at how easy it is...

And that's why we have been given a choice to stay or go ...... I chose to go, other people will choose to stay, we all have our own personal reason/s for staying or opting out

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davidc4430 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:35:15 GMT

the whole who has what access to what info sometimes has me scratching my head.

take for instance the guy in perth just a week ago who killed his kids before topping himself at his house.

it took hours to discover his body, now surley the polices number 1 suspect must have been the ex partner right? why did it take hours to go to his house?

they must of had access to his address within a very short time.

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:24:52 GMT

So neither of you have a mygov account.
Neither of you have lodged a tax return.
Neither of you have claimed a Medicare rebate.
Do what you want.
Your fears are your fears.
My fears are my fears.
I fear third party access to my health information from the third parties that the government are ALREADY giving that information to.
I don't fear what hasn't happened yet.
The man that made all government departments digital said he would opt out.
He is an expert on digital services and the government. I think he knows what he is talking about more than two chicken littles running around saying that the sky is falling

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:28:48 GMT

By the way the Federal government already has your driver's licence.
They are actively perusing facial recognition that was initially using passport photos but because way less people have passports and way more have driver's licences they now have your driver's licence and it's photo.
Sorry to burst your little unknowing bubble

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:36:52 GMT

Pursuing, blooming spell check.

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lyndal1838 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:55:52 GMT

So if you don't have a drivers licence you cannot opt out of the system?

Great.....that means that old people who a less likely to still be driving have to remain in a system even if they are unhappy about it.

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marwi5023 — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:08:31 GMT

You need a driver's licence to opt out online. It may be possible to opt out via another means

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freddie*rooster — Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:16:41 GMT

The day they ask me for my PIN number is the day I say NO WAY.