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Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 03:38:22 GMT

Parking fines issued by the hundreds on residential streets by NSW Police forces backflip

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-07/nsw-police-backflip-over-hundreds-of-parking-fines/10785432

come on police, be out fighting crime, not collecting easy revenue.

Re: Police earning the hate

shoppingbag* — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 05:32:58 GMT

This is only the tip of the iceberg. You are going to see a lot more of this. A lot of the housing estates have very narrow streets. There have been many complaints in areas near me. One area wanted a bus service and couldn't have it because of narrow streets. I noticed this trend in the late eighties. Blocks of land are getting smaller, and the roads accessing them also getting narrower and narrower. Developers and Councils, as well as Governments have a lot to answer for. There will be deaths as a result, only a matter of time, when the ambulance or fire brigade can't get through.

Re: Police earning the hate

springyzone — Thu, 07 Feb 2019 23:25:14 GMT

You are 100% right, shopping bag.

I read some time ago that the fire brigade was concerned about narrow roads in a lot of the new estates as some areas may be inaccessible to emergency vehicles.

I am in Vic & what I have noticed is blocks are tiny, house regulations have obviously changed and what you commonly see now are houses where spouting actually overlaps. My son in law is a bricklayer & commented that building some homes on their boundary is difficult if the house next door is up first. How safe all this is in the case of fire etc, well, I have my doubts.

I also think that there is the issue of noise. Councils might say we need to get more people into the space available but modern properties in the outer suburbs are made for families & there is precious little privacy in some cases.

As for the police issuing parking tickets. It should not have to happen & I doubt the police officers themselves are thrilled to have to do it but you can bet they are following orders. The fact is though that if parked cars are making things dangerous, they may have to step in. But I think council should be told that-in the long term-they have to employ more parking officers to deal with the situation. It's not a police area & the council set the scene by approving such narrow streets so they should have to deal with the consequences.

Re: Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 00:10:38 GMT

its greed, all up the chain.

developer buys a piece of land and works out the maximum number of houses he can fit into it, and councils go along with it because more homes more rates.

so its minimum size house blocks, minimum footpaths (if any) and minimum road widths.

and charge a motza for a postage stamp of dirt.

then build with walls on the boundry left and right and a 2 metres to the back fence. enough to string a clothes line.

Re: Police earning the hate

go-tazz — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 06:38:49 GMT

The road may be a bit narrow but they aren't parking next to the road.

Maybe they got the fines because they are parking up to 5 metres from the road,(as in 2 of the photos).

This photo shows a guy taking a photo from his front fence which is a good distance from the road and there

are no cars near where the people are so most likely parked close to the houses on that side.

The second picture shows a 5 metre nature strip and instead of parking off the road the residents have parked

right next to their houses,(so they are wrecking the nature strip because they are to lazy to walk or do the

right thing and park closer to the road).

IMHO the council should send those a letter to tell them to park correctly or face a fine,(probably wont happen

and when the nature strip is just dust they'll want the council to spend money to fix something they wrecked),

Notice none of the photos actually show two cars on the roads to show how "narrow" the roads are,(the only

one that does is the above photo which shows a car in the distance with what looks like a road that's plenty

wide enough for 2 cars to pass and that leaves plenty of space NEXT to the road for parking).

Re: Police earning the hate

lyndal1838 — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 07:01:38 GMT

Tazz, those photos are from a report on ACA the other night. They are not really a fair representation of the whole problem.

Most of the roads had no curbing and guttering and the cars were parked nose in to the properties. ACA did an experiment and had cars parked exactly according to the rules on both sides of the road. They then measured the space available for traffic.....even a small car could not drive down the road between the parked cars.

The residents have been asking for road widening or some other parking facilities for years and are met with a stoney silence. There are no curbs or gutters and no footpaths.

The local council and police are aware of the problems and choose to turn a blind eye. The fines were all issued by a Highway Patrol Officer from out of the area and the local police were very annoyed by it.

Re: Police earning the hate

shoppingbag* — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 07:17:06 GMT

You are obviously unaware of and have not seen the issues first hand.

Re: Police earning the hate

shoppingbag* — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 07:30:31 GMT

To Tazz, would you be happy living here if your loved one needed an ambulance or your house was on fire?

Re: Police earning the hate

go-tazz — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:38:42 GMT

The link was posted and I replied to the link only,(not to something that I've not seen),

In future if you want replies to something that no one has posted about or linked to please keep in mind that

I'm not a mind reader and I don't watch TV.

The issues in the link clearly shows residents with fines in their hands and that they were part of the "issue"

and they do not park anywhere near the road,

Re: Police earning the hate

go-tazz — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 09:54:51 GMT

@shoppingbag* wrote:
To Tazz, would you be happy living here if your loved one needed an ambulance or your house was on fire?

Next time you want to have a "go" don't post something that wasn't available before I made my comments,

I've lived in a street similar to that and we used to partially park on the road and the kerb which left plenty of

room for a truck to drive through,(none of those cars need to fully park on the nature strip).

Obvioulsy the houses were built first as surely you wouldn't buy a house in a street that's to narrow and then

blame the council for not parking on your own property.

Re: Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 22:55:06 GMT

i agree, my original post didnt include all the information i now see.

my original thought was not so much about the width of the road ect but that they all were given heafty fines. if it a problem then a 'warning' notice on every car, your parked badly, if found like this in the future you will be fined.

from the pictures i saw i couldnt see any obvious reason for the tickets (there was plenty of room to walk past cars without danger)

it looked like tickets just because we can.

easy revenue.

yes, they were parked where they are not suposed to and the police officer just did his job.

however its exposed a bigger problem now, the coucil is on notice to the real problem. if a street is so narrow if you park on it others cant get up and down it, it needs a cure.

Re: Police earning the hate

chameleon54 — Sat, 09 Feb 2019 21:57:15 GMT

@go-tazz wrote:
The road may be a bit narrow but they aren't parking next to the road.

Maybe they got the fines because they are parking up to 5 metres from the road,(as in 2 of the photos).

This photo shows a guy taking a photo from his front fence which is a good distance from the road and there

are no cars near where the people are so most likely parked close to the houses on that side.

The second picture shows a 5 metre nature strip and instead of parking off the road the residents have parked

right next to their houses,(so they are wrecking the nature strip because they are to lazy to walk or do the

right thing and park closer to the road).

IMHO the council should send those a letter to tell them to park correctly or face a fine,(probably wont happen

and when the nature strip is just dust they'll want the council to spend money to fix something they wrecked),

Notice none of the photos actually show two cars on the roads to show how "narrow" the roads are,(the only

one that does is the above photo which shows a car in the distance with what looks like a road that's plenty

wide enough for 2 cars to pass and that leaves plenty of space NEXT to the road for parking).

The second photo shows an unbroken white line running along the side of the road. Road rules say you cant park where there is an unbroken white line.

We have a road nearby similar width to the one in the photos. It runs through a golf course estate. The pratts who live in the houses have their garages filled with their golf carts and park their cars in the street. It is hard enough getting cars through. The council dump trucks, delivery trucks and fire trucks have all sorts of problems. Council needs to get its can of white paint out and put a few white lines along the edges of that street.

Re: Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Tue, 30 Apr 2019 09:19:45 GMT

Officer involved in alleged assault on disability pensioner accused of hitting teen with baton

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-30/officer-accused-of-hitting-teen-with-baton/11060036

the kid most likely didnt just 'obey'

Re: Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Wed, 22 May 2019 02:33:36 GMT

Ex-WA Police sergeant charged over Fremantle arrest after CCC report alleging excessive force

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-22/ex-wa-police-officer-charged-with-assault-over-fremantle-arrest/11137000

without the CCTV footage what would have happened?

police must be fitted with bodycams that cant be self controlled IMO

Re: Police earning the hate

myoclon1cjerk — Sat, 25 May 2019 09:28:28 GMT

Re: Police earning the hate

bimberiretrosystems — Sat, 25 May 2019 23:10:19 GMT

why do you keep doing these stupid blank posts-what a waste of space you waster

Re: Police earning the hate

martinw-48 — Sat, 25 May 2019 23:26:19 GMT

Re: Police earning the hate

myoclon1cjerk — Sun, 26 May 2019 01:43:27 GMT

Sorry bimb* I was trying to make it easier for you to read.

Re: Police earning the hate

davidc4430 — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:43:58 GMT

Ballarat police officer David Berry acquitted of assault charge, punch to ex-neighbour ruled self defence

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-07/ballarat-police-sergeant-acquitted-of-assault-charges/11178886

his word against hers?

he says she was trespassing on his property? how so? by going there seeking help?

she runs away, he chases her....why?

he belts her doing serious damage....why? because he feared she would stike him? really?

could he not just keep away from her? not chase her? call the police?

seems i'm missing something here.

Re: Police earning the hate

martinw-48 — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:01:53 GMT

That would be the blue uniform David.
It completely changes the way a brain works so we can never understand blue uniform motivation