topic Re: Suburban trees in Community Spirit

Suburban trees

martinw-48 — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 22:51:51 GMT

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/tree-loss-increasing-heat-in-suburbs-as-thermal-inequity-hits/11984338?utm_source=abc_news&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=abc_news

I hate driving around some suburbs and seeing no trees.
I don't understand the way so many people lose it over leaves, they're natural.
Sure they're annoying but it's more annoying to be walking in full Sun and having to get back in a vehicle that's been sitting in full Sun.
Yes, they do fall down and do damage and unfortunately kill the odd individual but they add so much to the streetscape and the natural environment

Re: Suburban trees

eol-products — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 23:07:18 GMT

I used to live in a leafy suburb but now most trees are gone and my yard stands out still having a few large trees in it. Poor possums have no where to sleep so one moved into a open shed to sleep. I will have to build them a some boxes sooner or later to live in.

Re: Suburban trees

davidc4430 — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 23:37:01 GMT

when i was a kid houses were built on 1/4 acre blocks and almost every home had at least 1 big spreading tree, ours had several, we loved climbing about in them.

today we see houses with maybe a 3 metre back yard and just enough room down the sides to wheel a bin!

if they do manage to have a reasonable back yard in goes the pool!

greed, smaller blocks more profit

Re: Suburban trees

eol-products — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 23:40:19 GMT

Just read the article and just realised I was talking to someone about this in january. My neighbours have removed most of the trees in their yards recently but my yard is still 50-60% shade from large trees and I felt it was slightly hotter than usual in the shade where it used to be cooler in pevious years.

Unfortunately I live in an area where most will tell you they don't like trees. Everytime a house is sold the new owner will remove a few more trees. Kind of bugs me when some make comments about how many trees I have. Trees that are in unsafe condition or close to a house should be removed but then no one is replanting anything which is a shame. .

Re: Suburban trees

the4masters2013 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 02:09:19 GMT

Our council has to be blamed for a bit of this. They are still allowing new estates to be built (stage 5 water restrictions coming up very soon) and these estates are full of shiny new roofs minimal garden/lawn and absolutely not a tree to be seen. Hot boxes is what I call them,
They do have ac but I hope the owners have the money to pay the bills!

Re: Suburban trees

imastawka — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 02:45:54 GMT

There's a new suburb north of Melbourne.

Grandaughter has just moved into a rental.

Neighbours say the Council stipulates that 85% of land must be built on.

Leaves no room for trees.

Or anything for that matter - how small is the back yard?

Re: Suburban trees

the4masters2013 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 02:54:58 GMT

Don't expect room for a pony or a pool! Or a hills hoist and no room for the kids to play in.
All house, set back a bit from the road (fence? What front fence?) ... lovely inside but still a hot box.

Re: Suburban trees

imastawka — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 02:59:06 GMT

It'd be ok if it was my Council.

By laws stipulate that there is to be a park within 300 metres of every residence.

We have lots of parks for the families/kids.

Re: Suburban trees

serendipityricho — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:00:41 GMT

With new estates-everything is bulldozed and the streets and courts are named

after the birds and animals that once lived there but wont return.

Re: Suburban trees

lyhargr_0 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:06:47 GMT

@martinw-48 wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/tree-loss-increasing-heat-in-suburbs-as-thermal-inequity-hits/11984338?utm_source=abc_news&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=abc_news

I hate driving around some suburbs and seeing no trees.
I don't understand the way so many people lose it over leaves, they're natural.
Sure they're annoying but it's more annoying to be walking in full Sun and having to get back in a vehicle that's been sitting in full Sun.
Yes, they do fall down and do damage and unfortunately kill the odd individual but they add so much to the streetscape and the natural environment

So pleased we live in the bush, plenty of open land and parks, heaps of trees, lovely wide streets, nice big blocks ..... wouldnt live in the burbs if you gave me a free house

Other thing I notice with these new estates, many of the houses have no eaves or verandahs to keep the sun of their windows, must be like furnace in there through Summer

Re: Suburban trees

the4masters2013 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:11:25 GMT

Not around here! With most of the new estates, you need to get in the car and drive to the nearest park... sort of defeats the purpose!

Swap my council for yours! Think I know the answer...sigh...

Re: Suburban trees

k1ooo-slr-sales — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:11:27 GMT

eaves are cool

Re: Suburban trees

imastawka — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:32:58 GMT

Also, with no eaves, if the gutters get blocked, when there's a downpour, the water runs straight inside the roof cavity, bringing down the ceiling.

Dangerous. Saw it happen next door.

Lucky no-one was in the room at the time.

And OMG...the mess!

Insurance wouldn't pay - said it was all down to maintenance.

The fruit from her fruit trees fell in the guttering, blocking the downpipe.

Re: Suburban trees

davidc4430 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:41:57 GMT

theres prolly a

DoDo Street then

Re: Suburban trees

imastawka — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 04:15:05 GMT

There is one

In South Africa

Re: Suburban trees

joz*garage — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 04:31:05 GMT

I'll be pruning my mothers box tree (i think it's box) massive! in a small backyard, growing over the neigbours fence and over her roof.

Replaced my old 338 XPT husky with a 435T (what i've always wanted) i feel almost complete now

Re: Suburban trees

imastawka — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 04:32:03 GMT

More power!

Re: Suburban trees

joz*garage — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 04:35:25 GMT

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tasfleur — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 04:44:58 GMT

Re: Suburban trees

lyhargr_0 — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 05:22:52 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
Also, with no eaves, if the gutters get blocked, when there's a downpour, the water runs straight inside the roof cavity, bringing down the ceiling.

Dangerous. Saw it happen next door.

Lucky no-one was in the room at the time.

And OMG...the mess!

Insurance wouldn't pay - said it was all down to maintenance.

The fruit from her fruit trees fell in the guttering, blocking the downpipe.

'n thats why they invented gutter guard