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Coronavirus support package

davidc4430 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 22:49:49 GMT

Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'

totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?

i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.

Re: Coronavirus support package

rogevibe — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:01:20 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'
totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?
i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.

Some will likely qualify for both streams of support

Re: Coronavirus support package

lyhargr_0 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:06:07 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'
totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?
i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.

Who cares what it is called, as long as the $$$'s reach the people who most need them and Au starts to get back on it's feet soon

Re: Coronavirus support package

domino-710 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:07:34 GMT

How.???

Re: Coronavirus support package

rogevibe — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:31:29 GMT

@domino-710 wrote:
How.???

Thiose who be still on Newstart but who are starting or short time operating a declarable viable business as defined by the ATO.

One is on the books with Centrelink ( with reporting obligations ) for 3 months even after starting a full time job or business enterprise regardless of qualifying fortnightly for dole money

Is of interest to me as I will shortly be in this dual universe

Re: Coronavirus support package

davidc4430 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:36:57 GMT

@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:
Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'
totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?
i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.
Who cares what it is called, as long as the $$$'s reach the people who most need them and Au starts to get back on it's feet soon

i was being sarcastic.

giving cash to welfair recipiants would be a shock to the liberal senses.

as wayne swan put it so well

"Do you trust a man who has spent 12 years saying stimulus packages don’t work to be able to deliver one?"

i'm not convinced australia is not 'on its feet'

if the masses are told to 'stay home' then how will we 'get back on our feet'?

if we arnt out and about spending then giving businesses money to stay open wont do much.

there is a huge difference between this crisis and the global financial crisis.

people were out spending with the GFC.

and industry was doing business, china was buying our stuff.

if country after country close their borders who are we selling our stuff to?

Re: Coronavirus support package

lyhargr_0 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:50:11 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:
Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'
totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?
i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.
Who cares what it is called, as long as the $$$'s reach the people who most need them and Au starts to get back on it's feet soon
i was being sarcastic.
giving cash to welfair recipiants would be a shock to the liberal senses.

as wayne swan put it so well

"Do you trust a man who has spent 12 years saying stimulus packages don’t work to be able to deliver one?"

i'm not convinced australia is not 'on its feet'

if the masses are told to 'stay home' then how will we 'get back on our feet'?
if we arnt out and about spending then giving businesses money to stay open wont do much.

there is a huge difference between this crisis and the global financial crisis.
people were out spending with the GFC.
and industry was doing business, china was buying our stuff.

if country after country close their borders who are we selling our stuff to?

Ever heard of buying goods on line from an Au business?

Re: Coronavirus support package

rogevibe — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:50:22 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@davidc4430 wrote:
Coronavirus support package will see businesses get cash payments and tax relief to get them spending

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-combatting-the-spread-of-covid-19/12047050

oh, its a 'support package' not a 'stimulus package'
totally different then.

give money to welfare cheats? really?
i can think of at least 1 poster here who will not be a happy camper.
Who cares what it is called, as long as the $$$'s reach the people who most need them and Au starts to get back on it's feet soon
i was being sarcastic.
giving cash to welfair recipiants would be a shock to the liberal senses.

as wayne swan put it so well

"Do you trust a man who has spent 12 years saying stimulus packages don’t work to be able to deliver one?"

i'm not convinced australia is not 'on its feet'

if the masses are told to 'stay home' then how will we 'get back on our feet'?
if we arnt out and about spending then giving businesses money to stay open wont do much.

there is a huge difference between this crisis and the global financial crisis.
people were out spending with the GFC.
and industry was doing business, china was buying our stuff.

if country after country close their borders who are we selling our stuff to?

In Australia , is not likely the masses will be told to stay home , unless a case is detected and so a workplace maybe quarantine , like what has happened with some schools and as a precaution some sporting events being spectator unattended.

What should be additionally cost assisted is virus killer devices for workplaces , public areas and homes and also personal coronavirus test kits which are rumoured to be available soon. - workplaces should have non-invasive test facilities for all personnel

If we do these things we might be also able to reduce common flu cold and flu cases and so improve productivity

Unlike the bleak northern hemisphere countries is still not winter time here - so we have time to prepare and enhance defenses

Re: Coronavirus support package

debra9275 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:54:45 GMT

Hugh Riminton

PM Scott Morrison announces $17.6b injection into Australian economy over the next four years to counter the effects of coronaviruscrisis. $750 immediate cash will go to pensioners, and those on family tax benefits. ⁦

over the next 4 years??

what the??...

it's good about the cash payment to pensioners etc... but that won't go far.... raising the pension and newstart would've been better

Re: Coronavirus support package

lyhargr_0 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:58:27 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
Hugh Riminton

PM Scott Morrison announces $17.6b injection into Australian economy over the next four years to counter the effects of coronaviruscrisis. $750 immediate cash will go to pensioners, and those on family tax benefits. ⁦

over the next 4 years??

what the??...

it's good about the cash payment to pensioners etc... but that won't go far.... raising the pension and newstart would've been better

Were those on Newstart included in the cash payment?

Re: Coronavirus support package

debra9275 — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:59:25 GMT

yes. newstart and carers, and holders of senior health care cards

Re: Coronavirus support package

lyhargr_0 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:15:01 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
yes. newstart and carers, and holders of senior health care cards

That's great, they are the peeps who are really struggling atm

Re: Coronavirus support package

davidc4430 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:38:46 GMT

we dont know the future with this

it could petter out in 6 months or it could become an epidemic when winter sets in.

i hope its the sooner not later option.

six weeks ago we thought it was a storm in a teacup

not something we need to worry about.

now our numbers are rising daily

no magic cure has been announced (im sure they are working 24/7 looking for one)

i dont wish panic to set in

bad enough toot papers no longer easily available right?

buying online you say?

only if online systems continue to operate unaffected.

wearhouses need staff, delivery companies need staff.

you dont press 'buy it now' and the item magically sends itself.

how many staff can go offline before business starts to fail?

Re: Coronavirus support package

davidc4430 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:41:42 GMT

Billions of dollars pumped into coronavirus-hit economy in bid to stave off recession, Scott Morrison announces

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/federal-government-coronavirus-economic-stimulus/12042972

Re: Coronavirus support package

eol-products — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:53:16 GMT

I was away for three days with no internet, did not watch the news or look at the news paper and honestly I was unaware of anything going on out of the ordinary. I heard something the other day about the virus was not the issue facing the economy but peoples reactions to the virus.

Re: Coronavirus support package

lyhargr_0 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:05:07 GMT

@davidc4430 wrote:
we dont know the future with this
it could petter out in 6 months or it could become an epidemic when winter sets in.

i hope its the sooner not later option.

six weeks ago we thought it was a storm in a teacup
not something we need to worry about.

now our numbers are rising daily
no magic cure has been announced (im sure they are working 24/7 looking for one)

i dont wish panic to set in
bad enough toot papers no longer easily available right?

buying online you say?
only if online systems continue to operate unaffected.
wearhouses need staff, delivery companies need staff.
you dont press 'buy it now' and the item magically sends itself.

how many staff can go offline before business starts to fail?

I refuse to share you totally pessimistic attitude re this current situation , I am a glass 1/2 kinda person. I am also NOT a worry wart, what will be, will be. In the meantine the government is "trying" to get Au through this and I support their effort/s thus far.

Re: Coronavirus support package

bright.ton42 — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:30:10 GMT

@lyhargr_0 wrote:

I refuse to share you totally pessimistic attitude re this current situation , I am a glass 1/2 kinda person. I am also NOT a worry wart, what will be, will be. In the meantine the government is "trying" to get Au through this and I support their effort/s thus far.

Totally with you there. Whether I like him or not our PM is doing what he can as are other world leaders.

For some posters they just can't get past the cheap political barbs which already cloud their already skewed vision.

From the ABC link ......."The Government wants its package to be temporary and offer an immediate boost to the economy, rather than making structural changes to the budget".

So of course financial aid will be expected to change as the need arises.

Re: Coronavirus support package

imastawka — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 02:29:44 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
@domino-710 wrote:
How.???
Thiose who be still on Newstart but who are starting or short time operating a declarable viable business as defined by the ATO.

One is on the books with Centrelink ( with reporting obligations ) for 3 months even after starting a full time job or business enterprise regardless of qualifying fortnightly for dole money

Is of interest to me as I will shortly be in this dual universe

. There will be one payment per eligible recipient. If a person qualifies for the one-off payment in multiple ways, they will only receive one payment.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australian-battlers-and-pensioners-to-receive-dollar750-bonuses-as-scott-morrison-unveils-dollar23-billion-covid-19-package/ar-BB1148Ne?ocid=spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus support package

myoclon1cjerk — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 04:46:58 GMT

I wonder if those who whinged about Rudd's stimulus package will arc up about this one.

Re: Coronavirus support package

myoclon1cjerk — Thu, 12 Mar 2020 04:48:49 GMT

P.S I'm glad the unemployed are included this time, but what they really need is for Newstart to be increased.