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Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:57:17 GMT

With all the precautions being developed to mitigate SARS-CoV-2 just wondering whether a flow on effect will be less hospitalisations for influenza and severe common cold

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

brerrabbit585 — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:40:31 GMT

Are you aiming for the Guinness Book of Records - for number of new threads started on the same subject within X number of days?

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 12:21:39 GMT

@brerrabbit585 wrote:
Are you aiming for the Guinness Book of Records - for number of new threads started on the same subject within X number of days?

Is a vast subject that is evolving - i offer some of my thoughts with the view of reading of constructive insights that are topic relevant by caring and intelligent people_ however anyone can reply

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

imastawka — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 12:29:32 GMT

Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 12:44:37 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English

ok , how about " i am just being social "

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

davewil1964 — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:00:34 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English
ok , how about " i am just being social "

That's certainly better.

I'd bet my vocabulary and sentence construction is better than yours (the countess might beat me) but the point of communication is to cogently communicate.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

imastawka — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:02:34 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English
ok , how about " i am just being social "

Better. Sentence construction is not your strong point.

You don't have to impress, just chat.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:23:13 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English
ok , how about " i am just being social "
Better. Sentence construction is not your strong point.

You don't have to impress, just chat.

So , your thoughts regarding the possibility that the covid-19 precautions may also reduce Influenza hospitalisations ?

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

imastawka — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:26:02 GMT

Don't buy it.

Different strains - won't make any difference.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:26:52 GMT

@imastawka wrote:
Don't buy it.

Different strains - won't make any difference.

Transmitted the same way

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

imastawka — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:42:24 GMT

As are most diseases.

Get coughed on, sneezed on, you're gunna pick up all sorts.

Touch surfaces and then your face, you'll pick up diseases.

Or not - if you have a cast iron constitution

Bedtime. My pumpkin awaits

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:45:27 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
Don't buy it.

Different strains - won't make any difference.
Transmitted the same way

so am thinking should respond to the same mitigation

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

joz*garage — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:55:14 GMT

@davewil1964 wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
@imastawka wrote:
Sometimes, I just wish you spoke English
ok , how about " i am just being social "
That's certainly better.

I'd bet my vocabulary and sentence construction is better than yours (the countess might beat me) but the point of communication is to cogently communicate.

**googles cogently

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

springyzone — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:09:23 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
With all the precautions being developed to mitigate SARS-CoV-2 just wondering whether a flow on effect will be less hospitalisations for influenza and severe common cold

I think it's a really interesting theory. I hope someone does the stats at the end of this year.

Yes, they are transmitted in a similar way, but with all the extra precautions we are seeing-large gatherings shut down, people being more cautious about washing hands, schools maybe shut for extra time etc, there could be a drop in normal flu numbers.

I have been chatting to a distant rellie in Canada and she was saying schools there have shut down now and people are being encouraged to stay home, not let their children out to mix at all. The adults are still working, i take it and their government assured everyone there will be no problems with food so not to worry, so there hasn't been the same run on shops as there has been here.

But it is starting.

I think numbers with the virus are similar in both our countries but I don't think anyone here took as much notice of political assurances so we seem to be about a week ahead of them in the panic department.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

brerrabbit585 — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 09:15:57 GMT

@springyzone wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
With all the precautions being developed to mitigate SARS-CoV-2 just wondering whether a flow on effect will be less hospitalisations for influenza and severe common cold

I think it's a really interesting theory. I hope someone does the stats at the end of this year.

Yes, they are transmitted in a similar way, but with all the extra precautions we are seeing-large gatherings shut down, people being more cautious about washing hands, schools maybe shut for extra time etc, there could be a drop in normal flu numbers.

I have been chatting to a distant rellie in Canada and she was saying schools there have shut down now and people are being encouraged to stay home, not let their children out to mix at all. The adults are still working, i take it and their government assured everyone there will be no problems with food so not to worry, so there hasn't been the same run on shops as there has been here.
But it is starting.
I think numbers with the virus are similar in both our countries but I don't think anyone here took as much notice of political assurances so we seem to be about a week ahead of them in the panic department.

The stats will be meaningless. The numbers of people who get the flu would vary enormously and how do they even know how many have had it? They'd only know about the people who've gone to a doctor and many would just go to bed until it's over.

I'd be inclined to think that people who have got the flu don't go to social gatherings, yet they stagger along to work because they feel obliged to or can't afford to stay home, and they spread their germs to everyone at work as well as on buses and trains. That means you're much less likely to catch it at a social function than you are anywhere else, so banning large functions is going to have no effect on the number of flu cases.

I can't see the point of banning large functions when trains are jam-packed with people going to work and you're in much closer contact than you would be at almost any other function. If you're going to do something, do it properly or not at all.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

brerrabbit585 — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 09:22:44 GMT

If a lot of people die of the virus then only the strong ones will be left and they'll be less likely to get the flu.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

rogevibe — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:43:31 GMT

@brerrabbit585 wrote:
@springyzone wrote:
@rogevibe wrote:
With all the precautions being developed to mitigate SARS-CoV-2 just wondering whether a flow on effect will be less hospitalisations for influenza and severe common cold

I think it's a really interesting theory. I hope someone does the stats at the end of this year.

Yes, they are transmitted in a similar way, but with all the extra precautions we are seeing-large gatherings shut down, people being more cautious about washing hands, schools maybe shut for extra time etc, there could be a drop in normal flu numbers.

I have been chatting to a distant rellie in Canada and she was saying schools there have shut down now and people are being encouraged to stay home, not let their children out to mix at all. The adults are still working, i take it and their government assured everyone there will be no problems with food so not to worry, so there hasn't been the same run on shops as there has been here.
But it is starting.
I think numbers with the virus are similar in both our countries but I don't think anyone here took as much notice of political assurances so we seem to be about a week ahead of them in the panic department.
The stats will be meaningless. The numbers of people who get the flu would vary enormously and how do they even know how many have had it? They'd only know about the people who've gone to a doctor and many would just go to bed until it's over.

I'd be inclined to think that people who have got the flu don't go to social gatherings, yet they stagger along to work because they feel obliged to or can't afford to stay home, and they spread their germs to everyone at work as well as on buses and trains. That means you're much less likely to catch it at a social function than you are anywhere else, so banning large functions is going to have no effect on the number of flu cases.

I can't see the point of banning large functions when trains are jam-packed with people going to work and you're in much closer contact than you would be at almost any other function. If you're going to do something, do it properly or not at all.

I agree for the need to quickly implement enhanced sanitising support as a suggested definition of " properly" - start with trains , no standing , everyone seated , UVC air tubular scrubbers installed - all to wear a musk while in transit.. Wardens to look for the clammy and removed at the next station , straight to the clinic

Employers to be wage compensated for any employees suddenly in quarantine - pending a replacement worker ( this is to encourage diligent support for compliance )

Those being a confirmed case , in quarantine, have access to means tested mortgage and rent assistance until returned to work ( to encourage compliance )

Those in quarantine have computer monitored tracker bracelets to ensure compliance , property perimeter monitored to ensure no unauthorised visitors , properties marked with Q signage to ensure no social visitation mistakes

Public toilets to have slow release water disenfectant cistern devices installed ( to killl any virus in the water for the sake of the next person that flushes said and gets v-fortified mist in the face )

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

myoclon1cjerk — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:15:53 GMT

Sounds a bit too Orwellian for me.

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

martinw-48 — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 16:48:04 GMT

How do we ever know the true number of flu deaths.
I've had the flu three times and each time was too sick to go to the Dr.
Rode it out at home
I'm fairly certain I had pneumonia once because I spent a week in bed and half filled a ten litre bucket with flem.
I couldn't do anything but cough while I felt like I was drowning and I'm the only one that knows about that.
Had I lived with someone they would have helped me get medical attention but when you live alone you just suffer in silence

Re: Less flu deaths this year ?

*kazumi* — Sat, 14 Mar 2020 22:09:07 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:
With all the precautions being developed to mitigate SARS-CoV-2 just wondering whether a flow on effect will be less hospitalisations for influenza and severe common cold

Yes, I would imagine so. Flu and common cold are transmitted in the same way;picked up from surfaces and person to person in crowded situations. But that does not mean that people should skip their flu shots; you will still be able to get both flu and cold, which would only weaken you and you would be more susceptible to the corona virus.