topic Re: Pell Acquitted in Community Spirit

Pell Acquitted

not_for_sale — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:31:48 GMT

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/high-court-to-decide-today-if-george-pells-sex-convictions-will-stand/news-story/131606ec6566aaa1c8d1675359221b2b?utm_source=CourierMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=CM_BREAKING_CUR_01&net_sub_id=311202432&type=curated&position=1&overallPos=1

WOW

Re: Pell Acquitted

debra9275 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:38:52 GMT

disgraceful !

Re: Pell Acquitted

lyhargr_0 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:44:29 GMT

Cant open the link without paying

BUT I have never thought he was guilty of this crime, too many holes in the story ................ Guilty of many coverups etc but not this one

Re: Pell Acquitted

not_for_sale — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:46:27 GMT

Sorry, I am a subscriber to the CM.

This one should work.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7152615/Cardinal-George-Pell-CLEARED-sexually-abusing-two-choirboys.html

Re: Pell Acquitted

jetho1680 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:48:36 GMT

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-07/george-pell-wins-high-court-appeal-child-sex-abuse-convictions/12048726

Re: Pell Acquitted

lyhargr_0 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 00:49:19 GMT

LOL Cant open that one either, cause I use ad blocker .... not to worry, will be in The Age 'n I can read that one

Re: Pell Acquitted

freddie*rooster — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 01:12:43 GMT

My heart breaks for his victims a sad day for all the children

of abuse.

Re: Pell Acquitted

rogevibe — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 01:14:22 GMT

The upside is that this decision tightens the lid on vexitous cases

Re: Pell Acquitted

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 01:42:27 GMT

@debra9275 wrote:
disgraceful !

I think only someone with no or little knowledge of law, could find the high court decision disgraceful.

I dont like George Pell, but Justice prevails.

Re: Pell Acquitted

not_for_sale — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 02:21:18 GMT

@gutterpunkz05 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
disgraceful !
I think only someone with no or little knowledge of law, could find the high court decision disgraceful.

I dont like George Pell, but Justice prevails.

The problem is the High Court overturned the decision of the Supreme Court. One of them got it wrong, but which one? I accepted the Supreme Court's judgement and it's Justice, but it did not prevail.

Re: Pell Acquitted

gutterpunkz05 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 02:49:39 GMT

Supreme court appeal, two of the three judges had little experience in criminal law and disented with the views of the judge with vast experience in criminal law.

Unanimous High Court Ruling ( 7 Judges all with vast experience) far outweighs the supreme court ruling.

Re: Pell Acquitted

bright.ton42 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 02:57:32 GMT

And they would be privy to info the general public don't have.

Even so I hope they got it right.

Re: Pell Acquitted

freddie*rooster — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:07:33 GMT

Watch Revelations by Sarah Ferguson if you want to see what

went on back in the days of secrecy. Father Vincent Ryan was

our local priest until he was moved on to another parish to

continue his abuse of children.

Re: Pell Acquitted

jetho1680 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:10:41 GMT

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-07/george-pell-high-court-of-australia-full-judgment-summary/12128468

Re: Pell Acquitted

*kazumi* — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:16:41 GMT

Pell has been in places full of convicted paedophiles, yet apparently he did not notice. Even when sharing room with some. He moved priests because they were accused of molesting children. There have been number of accusations against him over the years. Unfortunately, most of these men were either unable to bring themselves to go to court, or some are dead. I watched part of the doco the other day; the man who talked about what Pell did to him was very believable.

Re: Pell Acquitted

not_for_sale — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:18:51 GMT

@gutterpunkz05 wrote:
Supreme court appeal, two of the three judges had little experience in criminal law and disented with the views of the judge with vast experience in criminal law.
Unanimous High Court Ruling ( 7 Judges all with vast experience) far outweighs the supreme court ruling.

How therefore can one have faith in the Justice System when the Supreme Court can appoint two inexperienced judges in such an important appeal? How can one truly be confident that justice has prevailed? I accept the High Court decision, but the fractures in System leave that element of doubt.

Re: Pell Acquitted

lyndal1838 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:20:52 GMT

@freddie*rooster wrote:
Watch Revelations by Sarah Ferguson if you want to see what

went on back in the days of secrecy. Father Vincent Ryan was

our local priest until he was moved on to another parish to

continue his abuse of children.

But Father Vincent Ryan was not accused of these crimes....George Pell was.

I have always thought that Pell is guilty of something but not of the crimes he was charged with.

You cannot convict the man of "something" without absolute proof of that particular crime.

Re: Pell Acquitted

freddie*rooster — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:30:20 GMT

@lyndal1838 wrote:
@freddie*rooster wrote:
Watch Revelations by Sarah Ferguson if you want to see what

went on back in the days of secrecy. Father Vincent Ryan was

our local priest until he was moved on to another parish to

continue his abuse of children.
But Father Vincent Ryan was not accused of these crimes....George Pell was.

I have always thought that Pell is guilty of something but not of the crimes he was charged with.
You cannot convict the man of "something" without absolute proof of that particular crime.

I didn't reference Pell but I was speaking about the inherent abuse in the Catholic

church which was covered up over many years.

Re: Pell Acquitted

davidc4430 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:30:56 GMT

i think hes guilty

i'm very sad for the boys who finally stood up (now men) and told their story

i fully expected him to be aquitted

it was allways his word against theirs and well, he has friends not just in high places but the right places.

Re: Pell Acquitted

joztamps — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:33:16 GMT

@not_for_sale wrote:
@gutterpunkz05 wrote:
Supreme court appeal, two of the three judges had little experience in criminal law and disented with the views of the judge with vast experience in criminal law.
Unanimous High Court Ruling ( 7 Judges all with vast experience) far outweighs the supreme court ruling.
How therefore can one have faith in the Justice System when the Supreme Court can appoint two inexperienced judges in such an important appeal? How can one truly be confident that justice has prevailed? I accept the High Court decision, but the fractures in System leave that element of doubt.

Jim Maxwell has extensive experience in criminal law, having been hearing appeals of criminal law convictions for nearly 20 years.

Of the High Court Justices, only one - Bell - would have more criminal law experience.

Anne Ferguson had to sit on the appeal, it was her duty as Chief Justice.