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Tamil Family Wins Court Case

icyfroth — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 01:39:28 GMT

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tamil-family-on-christmas-island-win-federal-court-case/ar-BB12KBeQ?ocid=spartanntp

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

bright.ton42 — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 03:12:43 GMT

So Tharunicaa is granted a visa but not the rest of the family?

The rest of the family has not been found to be owed Australia's protection and they have lost all possible appeals.

I dont understand it at all, can someone explain it to me pleasee?

The poor family having that hanging over their heads for so long.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

twyngwyn — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 03:51:13 GMT

from the link:

While the decision is a win for the family, it does not force the government to grant her a visa or let them return home. It merely means the minister needs to properly decide whether to allow her to apply for a visa.

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4channel — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:30:02 GMT

Just give this poor family residency. This would be a great humanitarin gesture by this govt. They deserve it..

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rogevibe — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:35:59 GMT

For goodness sakes , under the circumstances just grant that family amnesty ! WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC

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k1ooo-slr-sales — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 18:57:47 GMT

the government is afraid that letting them stay would set a precedent. So, they will do whatever it takes to send them back . . . regardless of the cost involved or how much the Biloela community want them to stay.

Heartless is the word that comes to mind.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

icyfroth — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:29:47 GMT

Either way, they will probably have to stay put until the Virus is under control.

Are they still quaranting COVID ppl on Christmas Island?

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bright.ton42 — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 00:50:35 GMT

I realize that this would create a precident but to play with peoples' emotions like that is horrendous. Let them stay. Create a precedent then deal with other cases as they appear. It can be done.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

debra9275 — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 01:01:05 GMT

as of Sept last year,.. it cost taxpayers $4.5 Million in legal fees and costs to keep them locked up on Christmas Island.. it will be more by now

https://parlwork.aph.gov.au/senate/questions/702

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

the_great_she_elephant — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 01:32:27 GMT

And that's the problem. After spending millions to keep them in detention, I doubt if Dutton will want to risk losing face by admitting it was all a huge waste of taxpayers money.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

jetho1680 — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 02:29:03 GMT

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

rogevibe — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:05:11 GMT

@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:
the government is afraid that letting them stay would set a precedent. So, they will do whatever it takes to send them back . . . regardless of the cost involved or how much the Biloela community want them to stay.

Heartless is the word that comes to mind.

I agree is heartless - whether or not they are technically eligible

do not know why just declare a " pandemic amnesty" Just one innocuous happy looking family not like a million adult age males from war zones hostile to us will be released !

And what precedent ? No refugee seekers via boat venturing here now , the in thing is just legal visit using a tourist visa and forget to leave, and that has been barred for awhile now - an upside to the crisis

We are ahead of the game by 1000's -

Maybe the now the idle immigration dept should be transferred to customs and assist detecting imported contraband for wasting tax payers money.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

k1ooo-slr-sales — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 09:01:11 GMT

@rogevibe wrote:

And what precedent ? No refugee seekers via boat venturing here now , the in thing is just legal visit using a tourist visa and forget to leave, and that has been barred for awhile now - an upside to the crisis

what precedent?

The precedent would be:

- that if you are are an asylum seeker who marries another asylum seeker

- and both your claims for asylum are rejected

- but you have a child here

- and the community you live in support your claim for asylum

- and then drag out legal proceedings by appealing and appealing and exhaust all avenues for appeal

- then get a ‘reprieve’ of sorts by having your (born in Australia) child’s case reassessed

- and eventually get your whole family a compassionate outcome for your case

then others might try the same thing claiming a ‘precedent’ has set the rules.

AND BEFORE ANYONE JUMPS ON ME, my own view of this case is that it should not have got this far. A compassionate decision should have been made ages ago . . . saving taxpayers millions and saving this family a lot of angst.

From what I have read I believe they would be ‘at risk’ if returned to Sri Lanka (and I don’t mean at risk over COVID-19).

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

icyfroth — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 07:18:30 GMT

If the youngest daughter now applies for a visa and it's granted, what will be the next step?

Will the parents then send her to to be fostered in Australia and then start a family re-unification process, requiring more court procedures?

Or will they decide to keep their little girl close and decide it's not worth the sacrifice?

The human rights lawyers must be making a motza off these ppl's hopes.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

k1ooo-slr-sales — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 07:38:08 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

If the youngest daughter now applies for a visa and it's granted, what will be the next step?

Will the parents then send her to to be fostered in Australia and then start a family re-unification process, requiring more court procedures?

Or will they decide to keep their little girl close and decide it's not worth the sacrifice?

The human rights lawyers must be making a motza off these ppl's hopes.

I know . . . right!

That is why it should have been sorted ages ago.

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

lyhargr_0 — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:56:43 GMT

@icyfroth wrote:

If the youngest daughter now applies for a visa and it's granted, what will be the next step?

Will the parents then send her to to be fostered in Australia and then start a family re-unification process, requiring more court procedures?

Or will they decide to keep their little girl close and decide it's not worth the sacrifice?

The human rights lawyers must be making a motza off these ppl's hopes.

'n who is paying their fees? the family? somehow I dont think so

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

myoclon1cjerk — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:09:02 GMT

Maybe they're not charging fees.

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lionrose.7 — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:25:34 GMT

They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

lyhargr_0 — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 09:46:02 GMT

@lionrose.7 wrote:
They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer

Thats you opinion , it's not mine ........ They lost countless appeals, the refused to leave Au, so the DHS ( Au gov ) took the appropriate action ........ Nothing stupid about that at all

Re: Tamil Family Wins Court Case

the_great_she_elephant — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 10:04:13 GMT

And of course they're not real flesh and blood human beings like you and I, are they? just some of that that 'undifferentiated brown stuff' described by Orwell in his essay, Shooting An Elephant.