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Can anyone help ?

silvernanny22 — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 23:32:39 GMT

My 93 year old friend does not drive or use a computer. She lives alone in a retirement village. Her nearest relative is in regional Victoria. I am her "unofficial" carer. For the past few years I have taken her shopping, to Doctors etc. We live 2 kms from each other in Melb. metro area.

My question is : Can I still pick her up in my car and take her to the Supermarket?

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freddie*rooster — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 00:01:12 GMT

Personally I would call her get her shopping list pick

up what she requires and drop it off without contact.

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silvernanny22 — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 00:17:40 GMT

Thanks Freddie, That's always been on the option list , but I had just wondered if it was legally permissable. You know what it's like with 'vintage' people ... there will always be something that she forgot and desparately needs.

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springyzone — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 00:51:23 GMT

I am pretty sure you can. Remember reading about it, it comes under care & caregiving.

You are in a very lucky position as you live close to her so you don't even have to go out of your area. Just make sure you shop locally and you should be right.

You can most definitely take her to medical appointments and that applies even if they are out of the 5km area.

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freddie*rooster — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 00:51:23 GMT

I meant to say I hope your kindness is appreciated. I wonder how many

aged folk are battling in this climate without good people like yourself.

Thank you for your kindness.

I'm unsure about the legalities but i'm sure someone will know.

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springyzone — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:00:22 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/05/victoria-stage-4-restrictions-melbourne-lockdown-rules-covid-19-stage-four-metropolitan-metro-explained-what-you-need-to-know

I can't get relevant sections to cut & paste here but it says medical services can be accessed anywhere in Vic.

Also saw this:

You can only travel up to 5km from your home. You should stay as close to your home as possible, for example shopping at the nearest supermarket. For some people the nearest goods and services will be more than 5km away. In this situation you may travel beyond 5km to the nearest provider.
Only one person per household can leave home to get necessary goods and services and only once a day (this means you can’t do multiple shopping trips in a day). You should limit the time you spend away from home. If you are unable to leave home because it would mean leaving a young child or at-risk person at home unattended then they may accompany you.

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springyzone — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:07:05 GMT

I came across this. It isn't relevant to the OP but it suprised me!

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban”.

If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them. If you stay at your partner’s place after 8pm, you must stay there until the next morning. That is, you can’t go home from there between 8pm and 5am.

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Does this surprise anyone else? I can sort of understand people are allowed to visit a partner but really, couldn't they get there before curfew? If they are driving direct from work, that is another matter I suppose.

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rogevibe — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:13:00 GMT

@springyzone wrote:
I came across this. It isn't relevant to the OP but it suprised me!

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban”.
If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them. If you stay at your partner’s place after 8pm, you must stay there until the next morning. That is, you can’t go home from there between 8pm and 5am.
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Does this surprise anyone else? I can sort of understand people are allowed to visit a partner but really, couldn't they get there before curfew? If they are driving direct from work, that is another matter I suppose.

That sounds like normal living conditions in the country

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springyzone — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:22:17 GMT

We're talking metro Melbourne, not the country.

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bright.ton42 — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:54:13 GMT

springy there are so many grey aereas and inconsistencies.

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davidc4430 — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 02:14:33 GMT

call your local police station

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zanadoo_56 — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 10:08:49 GMT

@silvernanny22 wrote:
My 93 year old friend does not drive or use a computer. She lives alone in a retirement village. Her nearest relative is in regional Victoria. I am her "unofficial" carer. For the past few years I have taken her shopping, to Doctors etc. We live 2 kms from each other in Melb. metro area.
My question is : Can I still pick her up in my car and take her to the Supermarket?

If your friend has items she regularly likes to buy I'd go through any old lists and your memory and start compiling a mega list of everything you can remember she has wanted at the supermarket. That way if the rules get even stricter you can call her and ask what she'd like and check them off your master list and go and buy them for her.

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*kazumi* — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:40:44 GMT

@springyzone wrote:
I came across this. It isn't relevant to the OP but it suprised me!

You cannot have visitors or go to another person’s house unless it is for the purpose of giving or receiving care. You can leave your house to visit a person if you are in an “intimate personal relationship” with them, even during curfew hours. That is, there is no “bonk ban”.
If your partner lives outside Melbourne and/or 5km of your home you can still visit them. If you stay at your partner’s place after 8pm, you must stay there until the next morning. That is, you can’t go home from there between 8pm and 5am.
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Does this surprise anyone else? I can sort of understand people are allowed to visit a partner but really, couldn't they get there before curfew? If they are driving direct from work, that is another matter I suppose.

I think what they meant was that you can be in your partner's place after curfew, BUT you have to get there before 8pm, and stay till 5am. Unless the person works such hours that they do not get home before 8 or have to leave earlier. I imagine that might apply to some medical staff, or train, tram drivers etc.